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Could someone just explain in simple words why everyone keeps calling this story false or debunked or whatever? Everyone keeps downvoting me and I don't know wh

Could someone just explain in simple words why everyone keeps calling this story false or debunked or whatever? Everyone keeps downvoting me and I don't know why. It seems like to debunk this story you'd have to have a journalist do some journalism and figure out why all these companies were giving hunter biden money.

nabla9 6y ago
The Burisma story have been repeatedly found to be false. Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrat... Trump's conspiracy theories thrive in Ukraine, where a young democracy battles corruption and distrust. We talked with two dozen leaders and investigators in Ukraine. They all agree the claims against Joe and Hunter Biden are baseless. Yet they persist. https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trump... The facts behind Trump’s bogus accusations about Biden and Ukraine - Trump claims Biden threatened Ukraine to aid his son’s business interests. The facts suggest otherwise. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/23/20879611/joe-biden-hunter-biden-ukraine-corruption-prosecutor-burisma-donald-trump-whistleblower-complaint https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/23/20879611/j... ---- The latest NY Post story is just crazy. Man Who Reportedly Gave Hunter’s Laptop to Rudy Speaks Out in Bizarre Interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter... Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop: An explainer https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bidens-alleged-laptop-an-explainer/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bi... What we know — and don't know — about Hunter Biden's alleged laptop https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-po...
- akvadrako 6y ago
  Most of what you wrote is irrelevant. If the basic facts of the story are wrong, like the laptop or emails are not genuine, why don’t the Biden’s deny it?
  - eyeball 6y ago
    Some pretty genuine looking video floating around from it.
  - hackinthebochs 6y ago
    Repudiable media outlets will generally avoid writing stories about unverifiable claims. But once you deny the claims, then repudiable media outlets can bypass the need for corroboration and write stories on your denials, while also detailing the claims you are denying, which just further spreads the content of the claims.
akvadrako 6y ago
Nobody can discredit it so they suppress it. It’s the same thing Twitter did for the same reasons. For starters it doesn’t even need to be discredited — it just needs to be denied, which it hasn’t been. I mean the basic facts like the authenticity of the laptop/emails or the meeting.
PaulAJ 6y ago
The problem is that the whole thing is basically an unsupported allegation. It might be true, but for the time being we have no way of knowing. * The material was provided via two of Trumps henchmen, who may or may not have altered it along the way. * They gave it to the NYP after Fox News (never one to miss an opportunity to bash the Democrats) turned it down due to lack of provenance. * It was originally derived from a laptop that may or may not have been dropped off by Hunter Biden or someone associated with him. * The computer repairman at the centre of this has given contradictory explanations of the timeline, how many laptops were involved, and whether he contacted the FBI or the FBI contacted him.

nabla9 6y ago

The Burisma story have been repeatedly found to be false. Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrat... Trump's conspiracy theories thrive in Ukraine, where a young democracy battles corruption and distrust. We talked with two dozen leaders and investigators in Ukraine. They all agree the claims against Joe and Hunter Biden are baseless. Yet they persist. https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trump... The facts behind Trump’s bogus accusations about Biden and Ukraine - Trump claims Biden threatened Ukraine to aid his son’s business interests. The facts suggest otherwise. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/23/20879611/joe-biden-hunter-biden-ukraine-corruption-prosecutor-burisma-donald-trump-whistleblower-complaint https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/23/20879611/j... ---- The latest NY Post story is just crazy. Man Who Reportedly Gave Hunter’s Laptop to Rudy Speaks Out in Bizarre Interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter... Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop: An explainer https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bidens-alleged-laptop-an-explainer/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/14/hunter-bi... What we know — and don't know — about Hunter Biden's alleged laptop https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-post-story/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-new-york-po...

akvadrako 6y ago
Most of what you wrote is irrelevant. If the basic facts of the story are wrong, like the laptop or emails are not genuine, why don’t the Biden’s deny it?
- eyeball 6y ago
  Some pretty genuine looking video floating around from it.
- hackinthebochs 6y ago
  Repudiable media outlets will generally avoid writing stories about unverifiable claims. But once you deny the claims, then repudiable media outlets can bypass the need for corroboration and write stories on your denials, while also detailing the claims you are denying, which just further spreads the content of the claims.

akvadrako 6y ago

Nobody can discredit it so they suppress it. It’s the same thing Twitter did for the same reasons. For starters it doesn’t even need to be discredited — it just needs to be denied, which it hasn’t been. I mean the basic facts like the authenticity of the laptop/emails or the meeting.

PaulAJ 6y ago

The problem is that the whole thing is basically an unsupported allegation. It might be true, but for the time being we have no way of knowing. * The material was provided via two of Trumps henchmen, who may or may not have altered it along the way. * They gave it to the NYP after Fox News (never one to miss an opportunity to bash the Democrats) turned it down due to lack of provenance. * It was originally derived from a laptop that may or may not have been dropped off by Hunter Biden or someone associated with him. * The computer repairman at the centre of this has given contradictory explanations of the timeline, how many laptops were involved, and whether he contacted the FBI or the FBI contacted him.