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>Blocking Iranian IPs, as opposed to accounts, is almost certainly over-compliance. Note that the vast majority of websites do not do this. Even big ones, such

>Blocking Iranian IPs, as opposed to accounts, is almost certainly over-compliance. Note that the vast majority of websites do not do this. Even big ones, such as Gmail, do not do this. I wish dang would ban users for blatant misinformation such as this. The number of people who end up believing these lies as truth probably outweighs the benefit of any civil discussion it could lead to: in the US, it's now obvious that "alternative facts" has led to a breakdown of civil discussion, after all.

ztjio 6y ago
I sympathize with your position and even agree in the context of other types of sites, but, what really needs to happen here is YC users need to learn that nothing in these comment threads is authoritative. This is the land of Dunning-Kruger and nobody should ever directly believe anything here, no matter how trustworthy it seems. Always verify. If effort was put into censoring bad information, that might instill a false sense of trust that could never be met by mods. Instead, effort should be put into making sure everyone knows to be skeptical. That, to me, seems more in line with how this site operates. If people want to be believed, they should cite authoritative sources.
miracle2k 6y ago
You are quoting a very specific claim. That big providers such as Gmail and GitHub do not block Iranian IPs. Are you saying they do?
- DetroitThrow 6y ago
  >You are quoting a very specific claim. That big providers such as Gmail and GitHub do not block Iranian IPs. Are you saying they do? Yes I am saying they block accounts by Iranian IPs, and this is easily verifiable if you know anyone who lives in Iran and can access a website - attempting to use Github functionality for anything other than viewing repositories right now is currently blocked, and enterprise accounts are entirely blocked. Personal Gmail accounts are the exception to Google services available in Iran, and some functionality is also blocked by IP - if you live in Iran currently you might know that almost all other Google services and enterprise accounts are outright blocked by IPs too: https://support.google.com/a/thread/4870330?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/thread/4870330?hl=en https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-policy/github-and-trade-controls https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-... Here is a non-comprehensive list of sites that block Iranian IPs, most outright disallowing access to websites: https://gist.github.com/alibo/dfd7c258bcc44a0e8c9f7c5bfd3bd2c3 https://gist.github.com/alibo/dfd7c258bcc44a0e8c9f7c5bfd3bd2... Please do not spread misinformation.
  - miracle2k 6y ago
    So, I responded to you in another thread above. You seem to agree that Github is allowing Iranian IPs to browse the website, as well as have accounts to work on OpenSource projects. These are things Gitlab is not doing. Not sure where your disagreement is then.
    - DetroitThrow 6y ago
      When you describe the "big providers" such as Gmail or GitHub as allowing Iranian IPs, but they only do so on endpoints for personal use. GSuite, the same thing as Gmail and using the same address for most aspects, have IP blocked endpoints. This is where the misinformation is: many providers outright block Iranian IPs and in the other thread I linked you to services who do just that. Just because the most well funded consumer facing personal services don't outright IP block or account block doesn't mean it's not standard for everyone with a tighter budget.

ztjio 6y ago

I sympathize with your position and even agree in the context of other types of sites, but, what really needs to happen here is YC users need to learn that nothing in these comment threads is authoritative. This is the land of Dunning-Kruger and nobody should ever directly believe anything here, no matter how trustworthy it seems. Always verify. If effort was put into censoring bad information, that might instill a false sense of trust that could never be met by mods. Instead, effort should be put into making sure everyone knows to be skeptical. That, to me, seems more in line with how this site operates. If people want to be believed, they should cite authoritative sources.

miracle2k 6y ago

You are quoting a very specific claim. That big providers such as Gmail and GitHub do not block Iranian IPs. Are you saying they do?

DetroitThrow 6y ago
>You are quoting a very specific claim. That big providers such as Gmail and GitHub do not block Iranian IPs. Are you saying they do? Yes I am saying they block accounts by Iranian IPs, and this is easily verifiable if you know anyone who lives in Iran and can access a website - attempting to use Github functionality for anything other than viewing repositories right now is currently blocked, and enterprise accounts are entirely blocked. Personal Gmail accounts are the exception to Google services available in Iran, and some functionality is also blocked by IP - if you live in Iran currently you might know that almost all other Google services and enterprise accounts are outright blocked by IPs too: https://support.google.com/a/thread/4870330?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/thread/4870330?hl=en https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-policy/github-and-trade-controls https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/site-... Here is a non-comprehensive list of sites that block Iranian IPs, most outright disallowing access to websites: https://gist.github.com/alibo/dfd7c258bcc44a0e8c9f7c5bfd3bd2c3 https://gist.github.com/alibo/dfd7c258bcc44a0e8c9f7c5bfd3bd2... Please do not spread misinformation.
- miracle2k 6y ago
  So, I responded to you in another thread above. You seem to agree that Github is allowing Iranian IPs to browse the website, as well as have accounts to work on OpenSource projects. These are things Gitlab is not doing. Not sure where your disagreement is then.
  - DetroitThrow 6y ago
    When you describe the "big providers" such as Gmail or GitHub as allowing Iranian IPs, but they only do so on endpoints for personal use. GSuite, the same thing as Gmail and using the same address for most aspects, have IP blocked endpoints. This is where the misinformation is: many providers outright block Iranian IPs and in the other thread I linked you to services who do just that. Just because the most well funded consumer facing personal services don't outright IP block or account block doesn't mean it's not standard for everyone with a tighter budget.