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> What non-violent alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? It is not for the US to "punish" other world states, even if "Iran should be

> What non-violent alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? It is not for the US to "punish" other world states, even if "Iran should be punished". If you, or your state, believe some kind of sanctions are in order, there are international bodies and forums where this can be discussed and decided upon: The UN security council, international courts, and other more specialized bodies, some of which can make decisions which constitute sanctions.

golemiprague 6y ago
Why discussing it in the UN is better? Why involving other non democratic countries in the decision making? The UN is not some magical entity where every decision is better than whatever decision the US can take by themselves. If anything it is the opposite, since many of the countries there are not democratic, corrupt or just plain backward and their decision have no consequences to their leaders.
falcolas 6y ago
Why should one country not allowed to enforce a policy for companies/individuals who live in/are incorporated in that country against another country, without the UN being involved? This whole article is about a US company enforcing US rules.
- einpoklum 6y ago
  > This whole article is about a US company enforcing US rules. Not really. GitLab is an international entity regardless of where it is registered, because it presumes to be a platform for (some forms of) interaction and information sharing for people in many countries. It is implicitly agreed between users and the entity behind the website that it is accessible and usable by everyone. > Why should one country not allowed etc. It is not about "allowing", in the sense that I'm not in control of the US and what it does, we are discussing what is morally acceptable. And it is not morally acceptable for individual states to disrupt people's lives using the aspects of inter-dependency of people, groups and organizations across state boundaries - except according to norms which are accepted and defensible at the global level.

golemiprague 6y ago

Why discussing it in the UN is better? Why involving other non democratic countries in the decision making? The UN is not some magical entity where every decision is better than whatever decision the US can take by themselves. If anything it is the opposite, since many of the countries there are not democratic, corrupt or just plain backward and their decision have no consequences to their leaders.

falcolas 6y ago

Why should one country not allowed to enforce a policy for companies/individuals who live in/are incorporated in that country against another country, without the UN being involved? This whole article is about a US company enforcing US rules.

einpoklum 6y ago
> This whole article is about a US company enforcing US rules. Not really. GitLab is an international entity regardless of where it is registered, because it presumes to be a platform for (some forms of) interaction and information sharing for people in many countries. It is implicitly agreed between users and the entity behind the website that it is accessible and usable by everyone. > Why should one country not allowed etc. It is not about "allowing", in the sense that I'm not in control of the US and what it does, we are discussing what is morally acceptable. And it is not morally acceptable for individual states to disrupt people's lives using the aspects of inter-dependency of people, groups and organizations across state boundaries - except according to norms which are accepted and defensible at the global level.