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> countries with aggressive foreign policies If we go by that logic, the U.S. would get on that list. > non-democratic governments that use coercion on their

> countries with aggressive foreign policies If we go by that logic, the U.S. would get on that list. > non-democratic governments that use coercion on their own citizens If that was indeed the standard to go by, I'd agree, but the list would then need to be much, much longer and possibly include even some traditionally democratic countries like Australia who have an actual law where they can force employees to secretly install backdoors. Saudi Arabia infiltrated Twitter and compromised some of its employees to obtain info on regime critics that could endanger their lives, as just another example. The list would by these metrics include well over half the world.

marcinzm 6y ago
>If we go by that logic, the U.S. would get on that list. I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. >The list would by these metrics include well over half the world. That's like saying that if you don't want to die you should live in a cocoon and never leave the house, rather than just making sure to avoid the most dangerous activities. GitLab is blocking the countries it sees as the most risky and carry the least cost in blocking. I'm sure their lawyers would love to block half the world but that would cost them too much.
- amaccuish 6y ago
  > I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. As a non US-citizen, I don't really care if the US is democratic or not. People have voted and continue to vote for terrible things. What matters is what a country does. So actually the US would certainly be on that list. Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it?
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    >Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it? This has nothing to do with good and evil which seems to be a point you're missing. It's about risk of coercion to employees of companies. The US government could be turning babies into hand bags but if it doesn't coerce it's residents into acting against their employers then it doesn't create a risk for companies. edit: Seriously, this was all in the original sentence that you people keep cherry picking from.
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      The US has no more qualms about coercion of employees in order to further foreign policy than China or Russia. US legal options for such things are incredibly wide and far ranging.

marcinzm 6y ago

>If we go by that logic, the U.S. would get on that list. I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. >The list would by these metrics include well over half the world. That's like saying that if you don't want to die you should live in a cocoon and never leave the house, rather than just making sure to avoid the most dangerous activities. GitLab is blocking the countries it sees as the most risky and carry the least cost in blocking. I'm sure their lawyers would love to block half the world but that would cost them too much.

amaccuish 6y ago
> I put an AND in my statement for a reason, please don't cherry pick parts of sentences. As a non US-citizen, I don't really care if the US is democratic or not. People have voted and continue to vote for terrible things. What matters is what a country does. So actually the US would certainly be on that list. Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it?
- marcinzm 6y ago
  >Unless your argument is, it's not evil if we all voted for it? This has nothing to do with good and evil which seems to be a point you're missing. It's about risk of coercion to employees of companies. The US government could be turning babies into hand bags but if it doesn't coerce it's residents into acting against their employers then it doesn't create a risk for companies. edit: Seriously, this was all in the original sentence that you people keep cherry picking from.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    The US has no more qualms about coercion of employees in order to further foreign policy than China or Russia. US legal options for such things are incredibly wide and far ranging.