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How would it know what scaling factor you want?

by Athas 6y ago

snazz 6y ago
It should start with a reasonable default and then give the user the choice of different scaling factors like macOS does: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380570311227342859/766747043351494706/Screen_Shot_2020-10-16_at_12.33.55_PM.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380570311227342859/...
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  This is sway, i3 on wayland, a tilling window manager. Not some commercial piece of software that has to target the lowest common denominator to survive in the market. It's meant so that you configure it and it's very configurable. So it doesn't any defaults bar what's needed to launch the manager. The rest is up to you.
  - getfactsright 6y ago
    Never mind this, Sway already detects hidpi displays based on a heuristic from EDID info and chooses an appropriate scale factor. https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1800 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1800 8, now 9, comments in a subthread because no one could bother to validate assumptions or do a Google search.
  - snazz 6y ago
    Configurability is great, but that isn't an excuse for having poor defaults. A child comment to yours mentions that Sway now uses a heuristic to find a "reasonable" default scaling factor, so it appears that Sway currently does the right thing.
formerly_proven 6y ago
The standard has been ~100 DPI, so a 200 DPI display should by default get 200 % scaling with no extra configuration needed.
- Athas 6y ago
  I'd rather just have the configuration file be simple and well documented and let me make the decision. My monitor running at maximum resolution is about 163 DPI, so an automated system could guess both ways. 200% scaling works well for me, and it's a single line of configuration, done once, and I don't have to worry about heuristics changing behind my back.
- rleigh 6y ago
  The "standard" for anything today should be the physical display size divided by the pixel count to give the exact resolution for X and Y in DPI. Scaling should be relative to that physically correct resolution. We've inherited a lot of baggage and odd conventions, some of which were wrong to begin with. I don't think we should be carrying on with it if we can do better. Having these scaling factors directly correspond to physical reality would be a start.

How would it know what scaling factor you want?

by Athas 6y ago

How would it know what scaling factor you want?

It should start with a reasonable default and then give the user the choice of different scaling factors like macOS does: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380570311227342859/766747043351494706/Screen_Shot_2020-10-16_at_12.33.55_PM.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/380570311227342859/...

HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
This is sway, i3 on wayland, a tilling window manager. Not some commercial piece of software that has to target the lowest common denominator to survive in the market. It's meant so that you configure it and it's very configurable. So it doesn't any defaults bar what's needed to launch the manager. The rest is up to you.
- getfactsright 6y ago
  Never mind this, Sway already detects hidpi displays based on a heuristic from EDID info and chooses an appropriate scale factor. https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1800 https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1800 8, now 9, comments in a subthread because no one could bother to validate assumptions or do a Google search.
- snazz 6y ago
  Configurability is great, but that isn't an excuse for having poor defaults. A child comment to yours mentions that Sway now uses a heuristic to find a "reasonable" default scaling factor, so it appears that Sway currently does the right thing.

formerly_proven 6y ago

The standard has been ~100 DPI, so a 200 DPI display should by default get 200 % scaling with no extra configuration needed.

Athas 6y ago
I'd rather just have the configuration file be simple and well documented and let me make the decision. My monitor running at maximum resolution is about 163 DPI, so an automated system could guess both ways. 200% scaling works well for me, and it's a single line of configuration, done once, and I don't have to worry about heuristics changing behind my back.
rleigh 6y ago
The "standard" for anything today should be the physical display size divided by the pixel count to give the exact resolution for X and Y in DPI. Scaling should be relative to that physically correct resolution. We've inherited a lot of baggage and odd conventions, some of which were wrong to begin with. I don't think we should be carrying on with it if we can do better. Having these scaling factors directly correspond to physical reality would be a start.