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attach an external keyboard and mouse. Or in the near future, virtual keyboards and mice that come with the device. There are keyboards that are virtual, that

by iamwil 16y ago

attach an external keyboard and mouse. Or in the near future, virtual keyboards and mice that come with the device. There are keyboards that are virtual, that shine a laser. http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/ http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8193/ It's not too far of a stretch to imagine mice with something similar. In addition, projectors are getting smaller and smaller, and it's not infeasible for them to be on future smartphones. That way, you won't need to squint at the screen, as long as you have a wall nearby.

klochner 16y ago
. . . but then you aren't really developing on an iphone, in any meaningful sense anyway - all the "iphoneness" has been replaced, so it's effectively no different than any apple device with a cpu - ipad, mac mini, macbook etc. I think she meant she wanted a touch-screen ui that lets you drag and drop elements into a new app. Doubtful you would get anything complex or terribly unique out of that kind of interface. Certainly no angry birds :)
- dlsspy 16y ago
  That's pretty much how all development works in OS X proper. Just today, I needed a simple interactive calculator to think through a problem. It took me about as long to write an app as it would've taken me to make a spreadsheet, but I got to have it be interactive and do what I needed: http://skitch.com/dlsspy/rh8rp/throwaway-app http://skitch.com/dlsspy/rh8rp/throwaway-app
  - klochner 16y ago
    cool, is that in cocoa? for some reason I draw a distinction between "development" and writing little utilities for personal use, maybe because my little utilities aren't as pretty.
    - dlsspy 16y ago
      Yes. Tiny bit of objective C and enough time in IB to draw my inputs. Much of the mobile development I did was for little things like that. I wrote a utility for palmos to clean up my SMSes in batch because the UI on my phone and the palm both sucked. The most complex I wrote was a call log app that would helped me with a particular problem I was having. Most things were just using it as a fancy calculator or playing around with algorithms or something. I'm not very good at consumer devices, but I think everyone should at least have access to such toys (iLuaBox is a good start).

by iamwil 16y ago

klochner 16y ago

. . . but then you aren't really developing on an iphone, in any meaningful sense anyway - all the "iphoneness" has been replaced, so it's effectively no different than any apple device with a cpu - ipad, mac mini, macbook etc. I think she meant she wanted a touch-screen ui that lets you drag and drop elements into a new app. Doubtful you would get anything complex or terribly unique out of that kind of interface. Certainly no angry birds :)

dlsspy 16y ago
That's pretty much how all development works in OS X proper. Just today, I needed a simple interactive calculator to think through a problem. It took me about as long to write an app as it would've taken me to make a spreadsheet, but I got to have it be interactive and do what I needed: http://skitch.com/dlsspy/rh8rp/throwaway-app http://skitch.com/dlsspy/rh8rp/throwaway-app
- klochner 16y ago
  cool, is that in cocoa? for some reason I draw a distinction between "development" and writing little utilities for personal use, maybe because my little utilities aren't as pretty.
  - dlsspy 16y ago
    Yes. Tiny bit of objective C and enough time in IB to draw my inputs. Much of the mobile development I did was for little things like that. I wrote a utility for palmos to clean up my SMSes in batch because the UI on my phone and the palm both sucked. The most complex I wrote was a call log app that would helped me with a particular problem I was having. Most things were just using it as a fancy calculator or playing around with algorithms or something. I'm not very good at consumer devices, but I think everyone should at least have access to such toys (iLuaBox is a good start).