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> Youtube-dl is absolutely illegal software. Not in Italy What US law says is often irrelevant outside of the US of A

saddlerustle 6y ago
No, the restrictions around circumventing an effective technological protection measures are implemented in Italian law too [1] and more broadly are required to be implemented in every EU member state as a result of EU Directive 2001/29/EC [2] [1] https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/it/it211en.pdf https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/it/it211en.pdf [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32001L0029 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A...
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  That doesn't make youtube-dl "absolutely illegal". You should know that "absolutely" means anytime, everywhere, which is obviously wrong. You should also know that in Italy for something to be claimed illegal the court has to emit a verdict. If nobody challenge the status of youtube-dl obtaining a guilty verdict, it is perfectly legal. Last but not least, that law was created during fascmism, so there's also that. But in any case "fair use"(as you americans call it) is always permitted in Italy, you don't need a license, you are liable only if the entity detaining the copyright obtains a restricting order from a judge. So in Italy I can download any video I want from YouTube and I am permitted to watch them, It's not against the law. What's against the law is the re-distribution of the content. Moreover, you probably misread the law or skipped that passage, in Italy internet publishing (such as file downloading) itś a different right and it's called "exclusive right of communication to the public of the work" > it also includes the making available to the public of a work in such a way that members of the public may access it from a place and at a time individually chosen by them Sorry.

No, the restrictions around circumventing an effective technological protection measures are implemented in Italian law too [1] and more broadly are required to be implemented in every EU member state as a result of EU Directive 2001/29/EC [2] [1] https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/it/it211en.pdf https://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/it/it211en.pdf [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A32001L0029 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex%3A...

romanoderoma 6y ago
That doesn't make youtube-dl "absolutely illegal". You should know that "absolutely" means anytime, everywhere, which is obviously wrong. You should also know that in Italy for something to be claimed illegal the court has to emit a verdict. If nobody challenge the status of youtube-dl obtaining a guilty verdict, it is perfectly legal. Last but not least, that law was created during fascmism, so there's also that. But in any case "fair use"(as you americans call it) is always permitted in Italy, you don't need a license, you are liable only if the entity detaining the copyright obtains a restricting order from a judge. So in Italy I can download any video I want from YouTube and I am permitted to watch them, It's not against the law. What's against the law is the re-distribution of the content. Moreover, you probably misread the law or skipped that passage, in Italy internet publishing (such as file downloading) itś a different right and it's called "exclusive right of communication to the public of the work" > it also includes the making available to the public of a work in such a way that members of the public may access it from a place and at a time individually chosen by them Sorry.