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This is very interesting. Can you point to some article/data?

henrikschroder 6y ago
https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-deadly-month-ever.html https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-... https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mortality-in-sweden-and-other-european-countries-cd8fcdd6174a https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mort... https://twitter.com/FrankfurtZack/status/1317001636779347968 https://twitter.com/FrankfurtZack/status/1317001636779347968 https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/sweden-covid-status-after-q3/ https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2020/10... https://twitter.com/HaraldofW/status/1318260177955684352 https://twitter.com/HaraldofW/status/1318260177955684352
- barumi 6y ago
  Are you only able to come up with personal blogs? Media where any crackpot can post is hardly a reputable source for public health discussions.
  - henrikschroder 6y ago
    I'm sad to say that your comment just reads as "I don't like that fact and it bothers me that official statistics proves it to be true". They're all grabbing and visualizing data from SCB. You are free to disagree with their opinions and conclusions, but the numbers are correct. Sweden loooooooves statistics, which is why we have accurate monthly death numbers going back 160 years. Here's the last 20 years from the official source, you can check yourself if those "crackpot" blogs got it right or not: https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/befolkning/befolkningens-sammansattning/befolkningsstatistik/pong/tabell-och-diagram/manadsstatistik--riket/preliminar-befolkningsstatistik-per-manad-2020/ https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/befo... (Spoiler: They did.)
    - barumi 6y ago
      > They're all grabbing and visualizing data from SCB. Then you should simply post the data from SBC, and not blog posts from random crank pots what just happened to master the art of copy/pasting. To put it differently, people are interested in what SBC has to say, not what grannypuncher69 commented on an epidemic.
      - henrikschroder 6y ago
        > any crackpot > random crank pots > grannypuncher69 You took the time and effort to use a bunch of ad hominems to try to discredit my links, and yet you didn't address the data at all. Does the fact bother you that much that Sweden's all-cause mortality for 2020 is going to be completely unremarkable from a historical and statistical point of view? (Ok, third lowest mortality in recorded history is actually pretty remarkable, but it's also just the natural consequence of a decades long increase in life expectancy.)
        barumi 6y ago
        I'm sorry you didn't understood what I said. I've posted no ad-hominem. I did however pointed out the following facts: * blog posts and general social media blurbs posted by anonymous or pseudo-anonymous users are not references. They are somewhere between tertiary sources and bullshit made-up nonsense. * the use of the "grannypuncher69" handle was intended to illustrate how ridiculous it is to pass off random social media posts made by anonymous/pseudo-anonymous users as authoritative sources. * Primary sources, or at most secondary well-established sources, are the only acceptable forms of references, specially regarding scientific and technical subjects. * if no primary or secondary source exists then it's pretty clear that the original claims are bullshit. If you have a hard time following this then I'm sorry to tell you but your problem is linked with your inability to substantiate your claims, not your need to spin this fact into personal attacks directed at those who point any of the gaping holes in your reasoning.
        henrikschroder 6y ago

https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-deadly-month-ever.html https://cornucopia.cornubot.se/2020/10/september-2020-least-... https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mortality-in-sweden-and-other-european-countries-cd8fcdd6174a https://medium.com/@FrankfurtZack/unprecedented-overall-mort... https://twitter.com/FrankfurtZack/status/1317001636779347968 https://twitter.com/FrankfurtZack/status/1317001636779347968 https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/sweden-covid-status-after-q3/ https://softwaredevelopmentperestroika.wordpress.com/2020/10... https://twitter.com/HaraldofW/status/1318260177955684352 https://twitter.com/HaraldofW/status/1318260177955684352

barumi 6y ago
Are you only able to come up with personal blogs? Media where any crackpot can post is hardly a reputable source for public health discussions.
- henrikschroder 6y ago
  I'm sad to say that your comment just reads as "I don't like that fact and it bothers me that official statistics proves it to be true". They're all grabbing and visualizing data from SCB. You are free to disagree with their opinions and conclusions, but the numbers are correct. Sweden loooooooves statistics, which is why we have accurate monthly death numbers going back 160 years. Here's the last 20 years from the official source, you can check yourself if those "crackpot" blogs got it right or not: https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/befolkning/befolkningens-sammansattning/befolkningsstatistik/pong/tabell-och-diagram/manadsstatistik--riket/preliminar-befolkningsstatistik-per-manad-2020/ https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/befo... (Spoiler: They did.)
  - barumi 6y ago
    > They're all grabbing and visualizing data from SCB. Then you should simply post the data from SBC, and not blog posts from random crank pots what just happened to master the art of copy/pasting. To put it differently, people are interested in what SBC has to say, not what grannypuncher69 commented on an epidemic.
    - henrikschroder 6y ago
      > any crackpot > random crank pots > grannypuncher69 You took the time and effort to use a bunch of ad hominems to try to discredit my links, and yet you didn't address the data at all. Does the fact bother you that much that Sweden's all-cause mortality for 2020 is going to be completely unremarkable from a historical and statistical point of view? (Ok, third lowest mortality in recorded history is actually pretty remarkable, but it's also just the natural consequence of a decades long increase in life expectancy.)
      - barumi 6y ago
        I'm sorry you didn't understood what I said. I've posted no ad-hominem. I did however pointed out the following facts: * blog posts and general social media blurbs posted by anonymous or pseudo-anonymous users are not references. They are somewhere between tertiary sources and bullshit made-up nonsense. * the use of the "grannypuncher69" handle was intended to illustrate how ridiculous it is to pass off random social media posts made by anonymous/pseudo-anonymous users as authoritative sources. * Primary sources, or at most secondary well-established sources, are the only acceptable forms of references, specially regarding scientific and technical subjects. * if no primary or secondary source exists then it's pretty clear that the original claims are bullshit. If you have a hard time following this then I'm sorry to tell you but your problem is linked with your inability to substantiate your claims, not your need to spin this fact into personal attacks directed at those who point any of the gaping holes in your reasoning.
        henrikschroder 6y ago