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Facebook did pay $2 billion for Oculus. That probably helped them position themselves to have a breakout moment. But yes, it's unfortunate that Facebook is ki

Facebook did pay $2 billion for Oculus. That probably helped them position themselves to have a breakout moment. But yes, it's unfortunate that Facebook is killing them this way. The good news is that everyone makes a VR headset now, and people are writing VR games, so it will probably be A Thing even without Oculus involved. Innovator's dilemma and all that.

Rebelgecko 6y ago
Are there any non-Oculus standalone headsets?
- numpad0 6y ago
  Technically there are, practically none.
- chrischen 6y ago
  Yes, HTC makes them.
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    I think they meant without requiring a PC?
    - Rebelgecko 6y ago
      Yup. HTC announced that they're working on standalone headsets, but right now all they've actually released is some 3d renderings. After buying a Quest, I have a bit of a dilemma because I never want to be tethered again, but I also don't want to support what FB is currently doing
      - chrischen 6y ago
        Most of my Quest VR is still PC tethered (via Link cable or via Virtual Desktop over Wifi). But that being said, HTC does have a standalone Quest competitor... just not for the consumer market. https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/focus-plus/ https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/focus-plus/ Arguably their reasons seem sound because how can they compete against Facebook in the consumer market with such a subsidized headset? Facebook is betting on being able to monetize your FB account and VR usage in a way that HTC can't with just hardware sales and software sales. Given that Quest requires a facebook account, it makes it a non-starter for enterprise/business use cases.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Is SteamVR any good? Also HTC makes some, as another commenter mentioned. Oh wait, stand-alone. I don’t know about that part. Google discontinued Daydream so that’s out too.
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warrenq 6y ago
I don't think you understand what innovator's dilemma is. Facebook is poised to crush the rest of the industry. They have the cash, talent, distribution channel and brand to do it. Innovator's dilemma happens when 1) a low-priced, low-feature startup takes on higher-priced incumbent. High priced incumbent ignores low-priced startup. No one can go lower than FB on pricing 2) Fear of cannibalizations (EV eating Gas-guzzlers for GM, BMW). FB has always let Insta, WhatsApp and Oculus to run like startups with plenty of freedom. Oculus is not a threat to core FB, but an enhancer. Bottomline, time to load up on FB stocks

Rebelgecko 6y ago

Are there any non-Oculus standalone headsets?

numpad0 6y ago
Technically there are, practically none.
chrischen 6y ago
Yes, HTC makes them.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  I think they meant without requiring a PC?
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    Yup. HTC announced that they're working on standalone headsets, but right now all they've actually released is some 3d renderings. After buying a Quest, I have a bit of a dilemma because I never want to be tethered again, but I also don't want to support what FB is currently doing
    - chrischen 6y ago
      Most of my Quest VR is still PC tethered (via Link cable or via Virtual Desktop over Wifi). But that being said, HTC does have a standalone Quest competitor... just not for the consumer market. https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/focus-plus/ https://enterprise.vive.com/us/product/focus-plus/ Arguably their reasons seem sound because how can they compete against Facebook in the consumer market with such a subsidized headset? Facebook is betting on being able to monetize your FB account and VR usage in a way that HTC can't with just hardware sales and software sales. Given that Quest requires a facebook account, it makes it a non-starter for enterprise/business use cases.
aspenmayer 6y ago
Is SteamVR any good? Also HTC makes some, as another commenter mentioned. Oh wait, stand-alone. I don’t know about that part. Google discontinued Daydream so that’s out too.
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warrenq 6y ago

I don't think you understand what innovator's dilemma is. Facebook is poised to crush the rest of the industry. They have the cash, talent, distribution channel and brand to do it. Innovator's dilemma happens when 1) a low-priced, low-feature startup takes on higher-priced incumbent. High priced incumbent ignores low-priced startup. No one can go lower than FB on pricing 2) Fear of cannibalizations (EV eating Gas-guzzlers for GM, BMW). FB has always let Insta, WhatsApp and Oculus to run like startups with plenty of freedom. Oculus is not a threat to core FB, but an enhancer. Bottomline, time to load up on FB stocks