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> That really depends on the jurisdiction and context. No it doesn't. If you haven't legitimately obtained Taylor Swift's Shake it Off, you can't argue the co
by ldarby 6y ago
> That really depends on the jurisdiction and context.
No it doesn't. If you haven't legitimately obtained Taylor Swift's Shake it Off, you can't argue the copy you made with youtube-dl is a permitted personal copy, in the US or anywhere with copyright laws.
If you did pay for it, then yes you can argue it's a permitted copy (just not in the UK, which has stricter copyright laws).
(this is mostly a copy paste of this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24882280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24882280).
- Reelin 6y ago>> That really depends on the jurisdiction and context. > If you haven't legitimately obtained ... I'm well aware and never claimed otherwise. I very clearly stated that it depends on the context. (It's right there in the text you quoted!) I was responding specifically to your previous claim that "Copying something, without distribution, is still violating copyright." which was overly broad for the reasons I specified.
- ldarby 6y agoYeah, sorry I knew it was overly broad and should have been more specific. But it was in response to your completely wrong assertion that violating it requires redistribution. I think we're done here.
- ldarby 6y ago> your completely wrong assertion Oops, apologies Reelin I wasn't paying attention to who said what, that was feanaro who was wrong.
- feanaro 6y ago> If you haven't legitimately obtained Taylor Swift's Shake it Off Obtaining Taylor Swift's Shake it Off from a public YouTube video without watching ads is a legitimate way of obtaining it. That is exactly the point.
- ldarby 6y agoYou are just wrong. Please go learn about copyright. Then you might understand why this takedown happened.
- feanaro 6y agoI like think you are wrong and I have presented my case previously, to which you haven't responded. Nothing in copyright law itself can force you to watch ads while downloading a public video. I am completely sure this is the case in my own jurisdiction. If you want, I would be curious to hear your argument about why you think it does in yours. This takedown happened because DMCA is a broken, frequently exploited law which allows for illegitimate takedown requests, which you must abide by or risk exposing yourself to legal damage for no reason at all.
- ldarby 6y ago> to which you haven't responded. Where? I responded here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24881656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24881656 I can only repeat what's there.