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We studied what happens when guys add their cats to their dating app profiles

57 points by edward 6y ago

zzzeek 6y ago
"Our sample is a very specific population – heterosexual, primarily white women, aged 18 to 24 years and living in the United States." I did not even start dating until I was older than that.
m_a_g 6y ago
>But in the meantime, if heterosexual men are looking to get a match, it’s probably a good idea if they save showing off their photos with their favorite felines for the first or second date.
- hartator 6y ago
  Except if the cat is a tiger!
  - Insanity 6y ago
    I guess further studies are needed. :)
  - Fnoord 6y ago
    I was immediately wondering how Joe Exotic fit into this picture. He's an outlier though, and gay (not sure if relevant). Are tigers masculine, like dogs and unlike cats? Or feminine due to their relation to cats? Also, say you are male and a cat person. Am I to believe you should lie about your fondness of dogs? I actually dislike dogs. I'm not into the dating scene as it is, but a love for dogs (with or without owning a dog) is a big minus for me. I am a cat person.
mattlondon 6y ago
tl;dr men holding cats were "less dateable" as women apparently look for more masculine men (or so says the article), and cats apparently make you appear less masculine.
ebg13 6y ago
Anecdotally, I was once told many years ago by a woman on a date that men are supposed to like dogs, not cats, because something adjacent to "dogs are for boys and cats are for girls". The date went well, but I did not follow up. So, I see truth in their assessment, but I strongly question their conclusion. > if heterosexual men are looking to get a match, it’s probably a good idea if they save showing off their photos with their favorite felines for the first or second date Or you might not want to build a relationship with someone who thinks that owning a cat isn't "manly", and this becomes a good filter.
- LudwigNagasena 6y ago
  It’s expected that you show your best on your dating profile. And the dating market is oversaturated. It is not about not liking someone because he is not manly enough with a cat in his hands. It is about a multitude of unconscious factors that make a woman swipe left without even thinking a single word in their head.
  - ebg13 6y ago
    > show your best > It is not about not liking someone because he is not manly enough with a cat in his hands...It is about a multitude of unconscious factors Unconscious factors like thinking that a man with a cat isn't manly or "best".
    - bigbubba 6y ago
      Sounds like there's nothing unconscious about it, at least in the case you described.
vladmk 6y ago
In the meantime photoshop a picture of a dogs head on your cat and you guys are set. What about guys who had dogs in the first pic I wonder...interesting stuff. Speed boats would be interesting too always fascinated by this stuff even though I’m in a relationship I think it really shows how attraction is more about perception than reality just like any marketing overall.
- LudwigNagasena 6y ago
  > attraction is more about perception than reality This seems kind of obvious? A person cannot know reality, only their perception of it.
  - jlokier 6y ago
    "is more about perception than reality" does not refer to reality in the literal sense you have used it here; if it did, the phrase wouldn't mean anything. But it does mean something. In the phrase, "perception" refers to superficial perceptions such as what a person looks like via their photo, and how they are imagined to be, the perceiver filling in a lot of gaps to fit their ideas; "reality" refers to perceptions from experiences with the person, such as you might get from actually hanging out together, talking, arguing, living together, getting to know each other.
  - vladmk 6y ago
    Not obvious enough for you to understand it seems
Gualdrapo 6y ago
I used an app (not tinder, there I couldn't get a single match) where you could get a notification showing how many people looked at your profile. I had a picture with my late dog and had ~12 visits a day. In that picture I had was wearing a hoodie, and the hood covering my bald head. Removed that picture, and the number of visits went down to 1-2 per week at much. The number of women who decided to get in touch with me plummeted proportionaly, but wasn't that high to begin with.
- marsrover 6y ago
  I hear you have to get in really good shape if you're bald. Maybe worth trying out.
  - XIVMagnus 6y ago
    and/or being able to grow a beard also helps. I recommend strength training or powerlifting. I honestly think you can squeeze out some really good noobie gains from doing a basic strength program or powerlifting program. Then swap out to whatever you want. I also like to recommend BJJ / MMA to people, I love the sport and its also helpful knowing how to defend yourself.
    - marsdepinski 6y ago
      Also running Amazon helps.
- hoodie4life 6y ago
  as a fellow bald person (went bald early twenties), I think there is confusing messaging around baldness. For example, things that disguise baldness are "for insecure men". I am also told that judging people's physical appearance is immoral or even shaming. On the other hand I suspect it has likewise made it very difficult to get dates. If I conclude that being bald lowers my odds am I insecure? Am I diminishing women's sense of being shamed by men by claiming I myself feel rejected? The data, however, makes things more clear. I've never tried an experiment like that. Thanks for sharing.
viraptor 6y ago
I wish they published more raw data. The counts they have in the paper are over the whole group without a split over preferences. Then the paper says: "only female respondents who identified as a “cat person” found him more desirable for short-term or long-term relationships." and we find out that 21% were "cat people" compared to 44% who were "dog people". This seems more "people like dogs more frequently than cats" than anything else. Or "people presenting minority trait X are not preferred (apart from others who present the same trait)". The paper itself is at https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm
- Zenbit_UX 6y ago
  > found him more desirable for short-term or long-term relationships You forgot to include the second half of that sentence "or say they had no preference". So at most you get a +1 from cat ladies but more likely a neutral score. But a -1 or worse from all other women. It's clear that if optimizating for the most potential options their takeaway of don't take pictures with your cat is correct.
  - viraptor 6y ago
    We don't know how many say no preference and how many do have positive one. Which is part of the issue I'm trying to raise. We don't have that data. Also, my quote is from the paper itself. It doesn't include your quote. The article seems to change the claim a bit.
haltingproblem 6y ago
The cat vs. dog data is common knowledge in the online dating community. I would speculate that dogs evoke masculine associations because early species of dogs bred from wolves were used for hunting and that association is forever in our primal brains. Going out further on a limb I would speculate that the men showing dogs are not displaying poodles or shih tzus but rather dogs that were traditionally trackers and hunters like shepherds and pit bulls. One thing that the release of dating site data like [1] has shown that we are replaying evolutionary dynamics using high tech apps. Which is _not_ surprising as our species is the product of evolution. For anyone in the dating market, male or female, I high recommend The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating by David Buss. Lectures by Dr. Gad Saad and Dr. Diana S. Fleischman on youtube are also interesting and worth the effort. More than anything else it allowed me to understand my mating preferences and those of my potential mates which often go against stated preferences. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IHS3XE2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IHS3XE2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?...
- jlos 6y ago
  Nit picking here, but dogs weren't bred from wolves; they both descend from a proto-dog. Dog ancestors were scavengers that ate remains left by humans and were eventually domesticated.
  - eloff 6y ago
    I've never heard of that. The dog was domesticated recently, long after wolves existed as a species. So I don't see how you could even reconcile that with your story.
    - dagmx 6y ago
      I think the confusion comes from the colloquial use of "wolves" Dogs most likely evolved from a species of wolf , with an intermediary proto dog like a dingo or pariah dog in between. https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/0117/Did-dogs-really-evolve-from-wolves-New-evidence-suggests-otherwise https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/0117/Did-dogs-really-... However when most people say "evolved from wolves", there's a weird association with modern grey wolves without an intermediary step. So in effect you're both right, but depending on what your respective perceptions of wolf is.
hvdijk 6y ago
The conclusion favours quantity over quality, which is a wrong conclusion in my opinion. > Women who self-identified as “cat people” were more inclined to view the men pictured with cats as more dateable or say they had no preference. So if you're a cat person and you're looking for another cat person, the study's results should suggest keeping pictures with cats up.
mellosouls 6y ago
Original article I think, fwiw: https://theconversation.com/we-studied-what-happens-when-guys-add-their-cats-to-their-dating-app-profiles-144999 https://theconversation.com/we-studied-what-happens-when-guy...
- viraptor 6y ago
  Original original article https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm
  - mellosouls 6y ago
    No, that's the report. The article in the OP is a mirror. Edit: I missed the joke (original original), sorry!
mellosouls 6y ago
I suppose every bit helps for those on these things, but I can't help finding people doing this level of research and tweaking for their own profile-creating as maybe trying a little bit too hard.
jayd16 6y ago
I have a picture of my cat in my dating profile and I do ok. I find it interesting they phrased it as "men holding cats." I did make the conscious choice to exclude any corny "hey look me and my cat are best buddies!" type photo. I have the photo more for full disclosure, ie "hey I have a cat, if you're horribly allergic we should plan ahead."
lol636363 6y ago
Yes, women seems to be attracted to guys with dogs. As a guy, I have a dog, every time I take him out to dog park without my wife, I get hit on. But dogs are so much work and they are needy. If I had to do over, I would get a cat. My friends with cat can take wknd trip without taking or boarding their cats. Sometimes, they have no idea where their cat is. My guess is having a dog is not about masculinity but it shows that this guy can handle responsibility and needs of others.
- marsdepinski 6y ago
  Haha. Owning a dog equals responsibility. How the standards have fallen.
  - BobbyJo 6y ago
    Is it not a responsibility? Owning something that requires care and attention certainly seems like a responsibility to me.
  - dagmx 6y ago
    Owning a dog has always been a large responsibility. Why do you think that's a fallen standard? Not everyone handles that responsibility well, as is the case with most things, but it's still a large responsibility.
  - wintermutestwin 6y ago
    Actually, I'd say the American cultural standards of responsibility for a dog owner have risen dramatically in the past couple of decades.
  - httpsterio 6y ago
    It does though? You have to have a stable life in order to keep a dog. Vet bills, food etc. might not seem like a whole ton to you but we're still thousands of dollars a year at best. Also like OP stated, you can't just take off as a dog needs daily care and attention. I want a dog but I haven't been able to make the time nor can I afford one at this point.
jameslk 6y ago
I wonder what the verdict would be for a guy who has a bird?
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- marsdepinski 6y ago
  Like "I have a bird in my pants?"
robocat 6y ago
Sampling bias? Start with the premises that: a) “needy” women prefer a man with a dog, since that signals that the man likes a needy pet and is more likely to be after a needy partner, b) there are many more needy woman on dating websites (I can think of many reasons that could be true!)
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aszantu 6y ago
I dislike cats, they can't be trusted. Cats dislike me, I can't be trusted ;) A dog might give attention to everyone present. A cat might just act as if ignoring the person. Women prolly don't want to compete for attention with a cat. And I have known ppl will cats, they act weird.
glandium 6y ago
It would be interesting to see similar studies in other countries. I wouldn't be surprised if in some countries, the opposite result was observed.
dwd 6y ago
I think they need to redo their study and look at the difference between a guy holding/nursing a cat and a cat simply being in the photo with them. The former would be a negative while the second could potentially go either way depending whether the viewer identified as a cat/dog person. You could also test for holding/not holding a dog. I would think there is also likely to be a difference of perception between a guy with a border collie and one with a teacup poodle.
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  I don’t think it matters of you hold the animal because it’s more of a symbolic thing, as in the cat as a symbol has a certain culturally ingrained meaning, see: cats are usually a Godess. Tigers are Gods. Feminine/Masculine. Women prefer masculine men. You said it yourself with the teacup poodle example If a straight or lesbian woman or even a gay man identifies as a cat person, they still find you more attractive if you have a dog. Male beauty is judged to a different standard
  - dwd 6y ago
    I would probably disagree on that I would attribute it to an vestigial evolutionary trait rather than a learned or subjective ideal. Cuddling a cat could evoke a man as nurturer, where standing with a dog (a real doggy dog) is evokes the hunter/protector. Comparing a tiger to a cat would require the person having knowledge of tigers which wouldn't be universal if you go back a few centuries, so that would have to be a learned/cultural idea. Or in saying that you're just trolling a life-long Geelong Cats supporter who watched their team lose the Richmond Tigers in the AFL Grand Final last night?
    - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
      I think ppl are offended cus the science is telling then something they don’t want to hear...so the science must be wrong
dorkwood 6y ago
> Most of the women found the men holding cats to be less dateable. This result surprised us, since previous studies had shown that women found men with pets to have higher potential as partners. Is it really that surprising? Pictures that make men appear more masculine tend to do better, and pictures that detract from that tend to do worse. I'm sure you'd receive a similar result if you tested men who were pictured with show poodles.

57 points by edward 6y ago

"Our sample is a very specific population – heterosexual, primarily white women, aged 18 to 24 years and living in the United States." I did not even start dating until I was older than that.

m_a_g 6y ago

>But in the meantime, if heterosexual men are looking to get a match, it’s probably a good idea if they save showing off their photos with their favorite felines for the first or second date.

hartator 6y ago
Except if the cat is a tiger!
- Insanity 6y ago
  I guess further studies are needed. :)
- Fnoord 6y ago
  I was immediately wondering how Joe Exotic fit into this picture. He's an outlier though, and gay (not sure if relevant). Are tigers masculine, like dogs and unlike cats? Or feminine due to their relation to cats? Also, say you are male and a cat person. Am I to believe you should lie about your fondness of dogs? I actually dislike dogs. I'm not into the dating scene as it is, but a love for dogs (with or without owning a dog) is a big minus for me. I am a cat person.

mattlondon 6y ago

tl;dr men holding cats were "less dateable" as women apparently look for more masculine men (or so says the article), and cats apparently make you appear less masculine.

ebg13 6y ago

Anecdotally, I was once told many years ago by a woman on a date that men are supposed to like dogs, not cats, because something adjacent to "dogs are for boys and cats are for girls". The date went well, but I did not follow up. So, I see truth in their assessment, but I strongly question their conclusion. > if heterosexual men are looking to get a match, it’s probably a good idea if they save showing off their photos with their favorite felines for the first or second date Or you might not want to build a relationship with someone who thinks that owning a cat isn't "manly", and this becomes a good filter.

LudwigNagasena 6y ago
It’s expected that you show your best on your dating profile. And the dating market is oversaturated. It is not about not liking someone because he is not manly enough with a cat in his hands. It is about a multitude of unconscious factors that make a woman swipe left without even thinking a single word in their head.
- ebg13 6y ago
  > show your best > It is not about not liking someone because he is not manly enough with a cat in his hands...It is about a multitude of unconscious factors Unconscious factors like thinking that a man with a cat isn't manly or "best".
  - bigbubba 6y ago
    Sounds like there's nothing unconscious about it, at least in the case you described.

vladmk 6y ago

In the meantime photoshop a picture of a dogs head on your cat and you guys are set. What about guys who had dogs in the first pic I wonder...interesting stuff. Speed boats would be interesting too always fascinated by this stuff even though I’m in a relationship I think it really shows how attraction is more about perception than reality just like any marketing overall.

LudwigNagasena 6y ago
> attraction is more about perception than reality This seems kind of obvious? A person cannot know reality, only their perception of it.
- jlokier 6y ago
  "is more about perception than reality" does not refer to reality in the literal sense you have used it here; if it did, the phrase wouldn't mean anything. But it does mean something. In the phrase, "perception" refers to superficial perceptions such as what a person looks like via their photo, and how they are imagined to be, the perceiver filling in a lot of gaps to fit their ideas; "reality" refers to perceptions from experiences with the person, such as you might get from actually hanging out together, talking, arguing, living together, getting to know each other.
- vladmk 6y ago
  Not obvious enough for you to understand it seems

Gualdrapo 6y ago

I used an app (not tinder, there I couldn't get a single match) where you could get a notification showing how many people looked at your profile. I had a picture with my late dog and had ~12 visits a day. In that picture I had was wearing a hoodie, and the hood covering my bald head. Removed that picture, and the number of visits went down to 1-2 per week at much. The number of women who decided to get in touch with me plummeted proportionaly, but wasn't that high to begin with.

marsrover 6y ago
I hear you have to get in really good shape if you're bald. Maybe worth trying out.
- XIVMagnus 6y ago
  and/or being able to grow a beard also helps. I recommend strength training or powerlifting. I honestly think you can squeeze out some really good noobie gains from doing a basic strength program or powerlifting program. Then swap out to whatever you want. I also like to recommend BJJ / MMA to people, I love the sport and its also helpful knowing how to defend yourself.
  - marsdepinski 6y ago
    Also running Amazon helps.
hoodie4life 6y ago
as a fellow bald person (went bald early twenties), I think there is confusing messaging around baldness. For example, things that disguise baldness are "for insecure men". I am also told that judging people's physical appearance is immoral or even shaming. On the other hand I suspect it has likewise made it very difficult to get dates. If I conclude that being bald lowers my odds am I insecure? Am I diminishing women's sense of being shamed by men by claiming I myself feel rejected? The data, however, makes things more clear. I've never tried an experiment like that. Thanks for sharing.

viraptor 6y ago

I wish they published more raw data. The counts they have in the paper are over the whole group without a split over preferences. Then the paper says: "only female respondents who identified as a “cat person” found him more desirable for short-term or long-term relationships." and we find out that 21% were "cat people" compared to 44% who were "dog people". This seems more "people like dogs more frequently than cats" than anything else. Or "people presenting minority trait X are not preferred (apart from others who present the same trait)". The paper itself is at https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm

Zenbit_UX 6y ago
> found him more desirable for short-term or long-term relationships You forgot to include the second half of that sentence "or say they had no preference". So at most you get a +1 from cat ladies but more likely a neutral score. But a -1 or worse from all other women. It's clear that if optimizating for the most potential options their takeaway of don't take pictures with your cat is correct.
- viraptor 6y ago
  We don't know how many say no preference and how many do have positive one. Which is part of the issue I'm trying to raise. We don't have that data. Also, my quote is from the paper itself. It doesn't include your quote. The article seems to change the claim a bit.

haltingproblem 6y ago

The cat vs. dog data is common knowledge in the online dating community. I would speculate that dogs evoke masculine associations because early species of dogs bred from wolves were used for hunting and that association is forever in our primal brains. Going out further on a limb I would speculate that the men showing dogs are not displaying poodles or shih tzus but rather dogs that were traditionally trackers and hunters like shepherds and pit bulls. One thing that the release of dating site data like [1] has shown that we are replaying evolutionary dynamics using high tech apps. Which is _not_ surprising as our species is the product of evolution. For anyone in the dating market, male or female, I high recommend The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating by David Buss. Lectures by Dr. Gad Saad and Dr. Diana S. Fleischman on youtube are also interesting and worth the effort. More than anything else it allowed me to understand my mating preferences and those of my potential mates which often go against stated preferences. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IHS3XE2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IHS3XE2/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?...

jlos 6y ago
Nit picking here, but dogs weren't bred from wolves; they both descend from a proto-dog. Dog ancestors were scavengers that ate remains left by humans and were eventually domesticated.
- eloff 6y ago
  I've never heard of that. The dog was domesticated recently, long after wolves existed as a species. So I don't see how you could even reconcile that with your story.
  - dagmx 6y ago
    I think the confusion comes from the colloquial use of "wolves" Dogs most likely evolved from a species of wolf , with an intermediary proto dog like a dingo or pariah dog in between. https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/0117/Did-dogs-really-evolve-from-wolves-New-evidence-suggests-otherwise https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/0117/Did-dogs-really-... However when most people say "evolved from wolves", there's a weird association with modern grey wolves without an intermediary step. So in effect you're both right, but depending on what your respective perceptions of wolf is.

hvdijk 6y ago

The conclusion favours quantity over quality, which is a wrong conclusion in my opinion. > Women who self-identified as “cat people” were more inclined to view the men pictured with cats as more dateable or say they had no preference. So if you're a cat person and you're looking for another cat person, the study's results should suggest keeping pictures with cats up.

mellosouls 6y ago

Original article I think, fwiw: https://theconversation.com/we-studied-what-happens-when-guys-add-their-cats-to-their-dating-app-profiles-144999 https://theconversation.com/we-studied-what-happens-when-guy...

viraptor 6y ago
Original original article https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/6/1007/htm
- mellosouls 6y ago
  No, that's the report. The article in the OP is a mirror. Edit: I missed the joke (original original), sorry!

mellosouls 6y ago

I suppose every bit helps for those on these things, but I can't help finding people doing this level of research and tweaking for their own profile-creating as maybe trying a little bit too hard.

jayd16 6y ago

I have a picture of my cat in my dating profile and I do ok. I find it interesting they phrased it as "men holding cats." I did make the conscious choice to exclude any corny "hey look me and my cat are best buddies!" type photo. I have the photo more for full disclosure, ie "hey I have a cat, if you're horribly allergic we should plan ahead."

lol636363 6y ago

Yes, women seems to be attracted to guys with dogs. As a guy, I have a dog, every time I take him out to dog park without my wife, I get hit on. But dogs are so much work and they are needy. If I had to do over, I would get a cat. My friends with cat can take wknd trip without taking or boarding their cats. Sometimes, they have no idea where their cat is. My guess is having a dog is not about masculinity but it shows that this guy can handle responsibility and needs of others.

marsdepinski 6y ago
Haha. Owning a dog equals responsibility. How the standards have fallen.
- BobbyJo 6y ago
  Is it not a responsibility? Owning something that requires care and attention certainly seems like a responsibility to me.
- dagmx 6y ago
  Owning a dog has always been a large responsibility. Why do you think that's a fallen standard? Not everyone handles that responsibility well, as is the case with most things, but it's still a large responsibility.
- wintermutestwin 6y ago
  Actually, I'd say the American cultural standards of responsibility for a dog owner have risen dramatically in the past couple of decades.
- httpsterio 6y ago
  It does though? You have to have a stable life in order to keep a dog. Vet bills, food etc. might not seem like a whole ton to you but we're still thousands of dollars a year at best. Also like OP stated, you can't just take off as a dog needs daily care and attention. I want a dog but I haven't been able to make the time nor can I afford one at this point.

jameslk 6y ago

I wonder what the verdict would be for a guy who has a bird?

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marsdepinski 6y ago
Like "I have a bird in my pants?"

robocat 6y ago

Sampling bias? Start with the premises that: a) “needy” women prefer a man with a dog, since that signals that the man likes a needy pet and is more likely to be after a needy partner, b) there are many more needy woman on dating websites (I can think of many reasons that could be true!)

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aszantu 6y ago

I dislike cats, they can't be trusted. Cats dislike me, I can't be trusted ;) A dog might give attention to everyone present. A cat might just act as if ignoring the person. Women prolly don't want to compete for attention with a cat. And I have known ppl will cats, they act weird.

glandium 6y ago

It would be interesting to see similar studies in other countries. I wouldn't be surprised if in some countries, the opposite result was observed.

dwd 6y ago

I think they need to redo their study and look at the difference between a guy holding/nursing a cat and a cat simply being in the photo with them. The former would be a negative while the second could potentially go either way depending whether the viewer identified as a cat/dog person. You could also test for holding/not holding a dog. I would think there is also likely to be a difference of perception between a guy with a border collie and one with a teacup poodle.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
I don’t think it matters of you hold the animal because it’s more of a symbolic thing, as in the cat as a symbol has a certain culturally ingrained meaning, see: cats are usually a Godess. Tigers are Gods. Feminine/Masculine. Women prefer masculine men. You said it yourself with the teacup poodle example If a straight or lesbian woman or even a gay man identifies as a cat person, they still find you more attractive if you have a dog. Male beauty is judged to a different standard
- dwd 6y ago
  I would probably disagree on that I would attribute it to an vestigial evolutionary trait rather than a learned or subjective ideal. Cuddling a cat could evoke a man as nurturer, where standing with a dog (a real doggy dog) is evokes the hunter/protector. Comparing a tiger to a cat would require the person having knowledge of tigers which wouldn't be universal if you go back a few centuries, so that would have to be a learned/cultural idea. Or in saying that you're just trolling a life-long Geelong Cats supporter who watched their team lose the Richmond Tigers in the AFL Grand Final last night?
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    I think ppl are offended cus the science is telling then something they don’t want to hear...so the science must be wrong

dorkwood 6y ago

> Most of the women found the men holding cats to be less dateable. This result surprised us, since previous studies had shown that women found men with pets to have higher potential as partners. Is it really that surprising? Pictures that make men appear more masculine tend to do better, and pictures that detract from that tend to do worse. I'm sure you'd receive a similar result if you tested men who were pictured with show poodles.