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Wow, this is a really poor proposal. Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war. UN is a nice idea, though it doesn't work in reality. To

Wow, this is a really poor proposal. Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war. UN is a nice idea, though it doesn't work in reality. To apply for an asylum, you need to leave the country. Low likelyhood of happening. I explain why its wrong to my kids. What then? As sad as it is, we can't do much if anything.

runarberg 6y ago
Agree. Sure the UN could do more to both help the victims and condemn the actions. But military intervention seems like a very very very bad idea which might result in far worse travesties. Worse then even these concentration camps. Remember that 2.5% of every human on earth lost their lives because of World War 2.
brink 6y ago
The CCP has no intention of repenting of their ways and will always be seeking to increase it's influence abroad; encouraging this kind of behavior everywhere. Of course fighting is not ideal, as uncomfortable as it is; sometimes fighting is necessary. This isn't a problem that will just go away by wishful thinking or by being ignored.
- runarberg 6y ago
  Nobody is saying that. However currently the Chinese ruling class is getting away with this horror without any repercussions. International condemnation from world leaders might be enough to stop this horror, but so far we are not even seeing that from the international community. More realistically it would take a lot more then only condemnation. We would probably need to see sanctions against the Chinese ruling class and Chinese state owned businesses, and probably we would need to see the Chinese excluded from international cultural and sports events (such as the Olympics).
fsociety 6y ago
Passing these values to kids is valuable. Right now the US is at a turning point for its democracy and now is an important time to teach the values of human rights and democracy.
crocal 6y ago
Maybe I am an optimist, but that seems really bleak thinking. 1/ « Keep an eye on » is different than « Intervene ». We have to have satellites out there mapping this stuff in excruciating detail, and spies tracking who is responsible for what, and special forces hit them if they step out in a zone where they can be hit. The people who perpetrate this must live in fear. 2/ The UN is full of problems, but if a resolution grants universal asylum to Uighurs anywhere in the world, then at least those people will know there is somewhere they can escape to. That’s something. 3/ Your kids might one day be in a position to do something about it. Telling them why this is wrong, and why they should care, might just be the most important thing you do in your life. I don’t want to start a big argument. I just want to say that we can all do little things that do matter collectively.
tim333 6y ago
>Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war Not necessarily. Anti apartheid campaigns for South Africa kinda worked for example.

runarberg 6y ago

Agree. Sure the UN could do more to both help the victims and condemn the actions. But military intervention seems like a very very very bad idea which might result in far worse travesties. Worse then even these concentration camps. Remember that 2.5% of every human on earth lost their lives because of World War 2.

brink 6y ago

The CCP has no intention of repenting of their ways and will always be seeking to increase it's influence abroad; encouraging this kind of behavior everywhere. Of course fighting is not ideal, as uncomfortable as it is; sometimes fighting is necessary. This isn't a problem that will just go away by wishful thinking or by being ignored.

runarberg 6y ago
Nobody is saying that. However currently the Chinese ruling class is getting away with this horror without any repercussions. International condemnation from world leaders might be enough to stop this horror, but so far we are not even seeing that from the international community. More realistically it would take a lot more then only condemnation. We would probably need to see sanctions against the Chinese ruling class and Chinese state owned businesses, and probably we would need to see the Chinese excluded from international cultural and sports events (such as the Olympics).

fsociety 6y ago

Passing these values to kids is valuable. Right now the US is at a turning point for its democracy and now is an important time to teach the values of human rights and democracy.

crocal 6y ago

Maybe I am an optimist, but that seems really bleak thinking. 1/ « Keep an eye on » is different than « Intervene ». We have to have satellites out there mapping this stuff in excruciating detail, and spies tracking who is responsible for what, and special forces hit them if they step out in a zone where they can be hit. The people who perpetrate this must live in fear. 2/ The UN is full of problems, but if a resolution grants universal asylum to Uighurs anywhere in the world, then at least those people will know there is somewhere they can escape to. That’s something. 3/ Your kids might one day be in a position to do something about it. Telling them why this is wrong, and why they should care, might just be the most important thing you do in your life. I don’t want to start a big argument. I just want to say that we can all do little things that do matter collectively.

tim333 6y ago

>Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war Not necessarily. Anti apartheid campaigns for South Africa kinda worked for example.