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I have never read a first-hand account, that is why I am posting this.
by yk42bb 6y ago
I have never read a first-hand account, that is why I am posting this.
- sergiotapia 6y agoThank you for posting this. More people need to see this is happening in a so-called first world country.
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- DevKoala 6y agoWhat does that have to do with the suffering of Uighur people?
- akiselev 6y agoThe last time the human race stopped an industrial scale genocide, half the world had to unite under their own selfish reasons. That's no longer possible thanks to nuclear weapons, so our battle will have to be fought first with introspection and reflection. We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty and causing even more collateral damage, so the best we can do is once again find our principles. We will need them to unite us and guide us through the economic pain and chaos that a proper solution like embargoing China would require.
- shripadk 6y ago> We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty and causing even more collateral damage, so the best we can do is once again find our principles Yes we can. Boycott CCP controlled businesses, their manufactured goods and services. Ensure strict sanctions are levied on CCP members. Ban travel of CCP members to and from countries that respect the rule of Law. But nope. We would rather, like cowards, keep our mouth shut and do nothing while this genocide continuous unabated.
- akiselev 6y agoAn embargo is a national, legally mandated boycott that carries penalties up to and including prison time. If your personal boycotts help make you feel better about the ongoing genocide, that's great! I, for one, would prefer a solution that works.
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago(daft post, deleted)
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- stale2002 6y agoThe US already has tariffs on china, and we can legally increase them. Tariffs can cause a lot of damage.
- kaitai 6y agoAnd for all the folks who are saying "well that doesn't work" do look at for instance international pressure on South Africa near the end of apartheid. Internal and external pressure in concert can have effect.
- FpUser 6y agoSouth Africa had no real ways to fight back. China on the other hand can inflict a lot of damage.
- monoideism 6y ago> Boycott CCP controlled businesses, their manufactured goods and services. Ensure strict sanctions are levied on CCP members. Ban travel of CCP members to and from countries that respect the rule of Law. That's typically not worked in other countries. For example, see Russia, which has been under exactly those kinds of targeted sanctions and yet which continues to openly murder opponents of the Putin regime across the globe.
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago> We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty Breaking up a regime capable of doing monstrous things has been done before q.v. europe 1945 .
- yeetman21 6y ago>That's no longer possible thanks to nuclear weapons its in the post you replied to, c'mon man
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- ornitorrincos 6y agoYou missed the parents points, where he argues that it took half of the world in a military alliance and years of wars to accomplish the goals. Doing that against a nuclear state is impossible, as such military action is out of the picture. That leaves only economic action.
- rocho 6y agoBut can that be effective, really? Many times economic sanctions are a joke (see the ones dished out by the UN). If they become too hard, a nuclear state can threaten nuclear action just the same. What then?
- throwaway_pdp09 6y agoThen next they come for someone else, then eventually they come for you. There's your answer, I guess in your world you lose either way, right?
- Kbelicius 6y agoOnly when those monstrous things spread outside of the borders. Even then it was allowed to spread sometime outside its borders before others reacted.
- shripadk 6y agoThat photo in the article is from 2014. Started during the Obama administration. Already been debunked: https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-democratic-national-convention-ap-fact-check-immigration-politics-2663c84832a13cdd7a8233becfc7a5f3 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-democratic-national...
- yorwba 6y agohttps://bitterwinter.org/tag/muslim-uyghurs/ https://bitterwinter.org/tag/muslim-uyghurs/ has a bunch more articles focusing on the experience of single individuals, mixed in with more broad reporting.
- yellow_lead 6y agoThere is a lot more primary evidence and a well maintained victim database at https://www.shahit.biz/eng/#evidence https://www.shahit.biz/eng/#evidence
- coolgod 6y agoI haven't got my daily check from the CIA, that is why I am posting this.
- justicezyx 6y agoWe are going to see more of this, once the millions being detained get out or were killed entirely. More leaks will come. Be patient, CCP's crimes are coming out.
- agent00f 6y agoUh, there are many accounts from people who were at various camps if you just search, because the typical stay is much shorter than let on in propaganda. In fact, pretty much all accounts are from people who were released. These are much closer in nature to the US border detention camps, with "prisoners" entering and leaving regularly.
- data_ders 6y agoyou know a nerve has been struck when the 3 Kuai Army [1] brigades into HN to "share the truth" about "re-education camps" [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
- powerapple 6y agoThanks for the effort of registering an account just to post this.