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Would love to see charts of mortality over the years for other countries. If you guys know such, please post! Here is one for Germany: https://www.destatis.de

Would love to see charts of mortality over the years for other countries. If you guys know such, please post! Here is one for Germany: https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Querschnitt/Corona/Gesellschaft/bevoelkerung-sterbefaelle.html https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Querschnitt/Corona/Gesells...

aaaxyz 6y ago
Only covers 2015-now : https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country
hirundo 6y ago
Here's one from the CDC for excess deaths in the U.S. and its states: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The excess deaths during the pandemic are not subtle in these graphs. If the data is accurate and the comparison with Sweden is valid, then it does tend to support the importance herd immunity to this virus.
- rbjorklin 6y ago
  There is no herd immunity in Sweden and it was never a stated goal. New infections are trending up the same as everywhere else. The official statistics dashboard can be found here: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6...
- kenjackson 6y ago
  How does this support herd immunity? Herd immunity wouldn’t lead to the distinction between the US and Sweden unless Sweden achieved herd immunity before the virus was being tracked.
- pjc50 6y ago
  Explain what you mean by "herd immunity"? It is normally achieved through vaccination; if you mean "wait until most of the population has had the disease", you'd need to wait until the US death toll was much higher to achieve that.
Vinnl 6y ago
Dutch numbers appear to be here: https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/70895ned/table?fromstatweb https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/70895ned/t...

aaaxyz 6y ago

Only covers 2015-now : https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country

hirundo 6y ago

Here's one from the CDC for excess deaths in the U.S. and its states: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The excess deaths during the pandemic are not subtle in these graphs. If the data is accurate and the comparison with Sweden is valid, then it does tend to support the importance herd immunity to this virus.

rbjorklin 6y ago
There is no herd immunity in Sweden and it was never a stated goal. New infections are trending up the same as everywhere else. The official statistics dashboard can be found here: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6...
kenjackson 6y ago
How does this support herd immunity? Herd immunity wouldn’t lead to the distinction between the US and Sweden unless Sweden achieved herd immunity before the virus was being tracked.
pjc50 6y ago
Explain what you mean by "herd immunity"? It is normally achieved through vaccination; if you mean "wait until most of the population has had the disease", you'd need to wait until the US death toll was much higher to achieve that.

Vinnl 6y ago

Dutch numbers appear to be here: https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/70895ned/table?fromstatweb https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/70895ned/t...