> Cars, TV, home appliances, and the whole lot of today's energy-hungry living isn't sustainable It seems like you're gunning for some weird primitivist angle

> Cars, TV, home appliances, and the whole lot of today's energy-hungry living isn't sustainable It seems like you're gunning for some weird primitivist angle that just isn't realistic. These problems are solvable with good public transit infrastructure and a few thousand hectares of solar panels. Obviously there's no escaping some impact on our lifestyle, but "hey, destitution isn't so bad when you have family" is a bizarre leap out of left field. No climate scientists are realistically suggesting that we "end home appliances."