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Yes, the right has their own boogeymen, like Antifa and BLM. However I'm willing to bet you don't see anything about Q in right wing news sources is there is l

Yes, the right has their own boogeymen, like Antifa and BLM. However I'm willing to bet you don't see anything about Q in right wing news sources is there is literally nothing to write about them except "these guys think Trump is fighting a deep underground pedo cabal" and I'm sure they don't want to antagonize their readers.

m0zg 6y ago
Except of course BLM and Antifa physically exist, evidence of which you could (and still can) see nearly every day in downtown Portland, if you wanted to see it. It's fiery, but mostly peaceful, or so CNN seems to believe. Ted Wheeler didn't find it quite peaceful enough, though, so he had to move elsewhere. Plenty of imagery and video on twitter (see e.g. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo), at least from locations where they didn't kick out the "press". BLM and Antifa, in fact, might be the reason why Trump wins the election on Nov 3.
- nemothekid 6y ago
  >Except of course BLM and Antifa physically exist And Q... doesnt? What are you implying? >see nearly every day in downtown Portland >https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo So Q doesn't exist, despite "plenty of imagery and video on twitter", but I should take "MrAndyNgo", a Twitter nobody completely at face value? I've been to Portland recently. Plenty of people were outside eating at restaurants. The "anarchy" is greatly overblown by the media. I don't mean to downplay the impact of either movement, but to dismiss QAnon as "liberal conspiracy" when simultaneously only getting news from, what seems like a Twitter agitator, AndyNgo is concerning.
  - m0zg 6y ago
    He's not a "twitter nobody", he's a blue check journalist who runs https://thepostmillennial.com/ https://thepostmillennial.com/ and frequently appears on TV. All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like. So if we were going down the list of dangerous societal things to address it would be nowhere close to the top.
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
      >All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like. Bruh what? Qanon has incited a lot of violence. Getting someone to commit acts of violence on your behalf is worse than specific acts of violence by people that choose to do so without provocation. [0]. Anyways, comparing qanon, an anonymous conspiratorial propagandist to BLM: >decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people. [1] ...or antifa, [2]: >an anti-fascist action and left-wing political movement in the United States comprising an array of autonomous groups and individuals that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform. ...which are basically spontaneously formed groups of people supporting specific political causes... indicates that you do not understand the complexity of events since qanons appearance. yet you speak confidently as if you did and go on to condemn countless millions that support antifa or blm for their tenuous proximal association to anarchists or looters. Such irrational comparisons indicate an emotional response to whatever you perceive antifa and blm to represent. Antifa and blm protests make specific demands at their demonstrations. Time and time again we see their demonstrations disrupted by radicalized agent provocateurs, opportunists, anarchists and others. Please disambiguate yourself when speaking about millions of people. It's easy to say an opportunistic person looting target is blm. Just as easy as it is to say anyone defending qanon, or intimidating voters by playing soldier at polling places is a proud boy/Aryan brother/whatever racist right wing group is in the news for a hate crime that day. Proud boys, kkk, Aryan Brotherhood and countless others are violent terrorist organizations that have initial ceremonies, membership lists, and responsibilities. Antifa and blm do not. Trump can't even condemn white supremacists in the most generic of terms. On top of that he's frequently referenced q conspiracies lending whatever credibility you attribute to trump to qanon. The link between trump, qanon, and racist terrorist organizations is stronger than any links between the countless millions of people who fly antifa or blm signs. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violence-crimes-timeline https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violen... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

m0zg 6y ago

Except of course BLM and Antifa physically exist, evidence of which you could (and still can) see nearly every day in downtown Portland, if you wanted to see it. It's fiery, but mostly peaceful, or so CNN seems to believe. Ted Wheeler didn't find it quite peaceful enough, though, so he had to move elsewhere. Plenty of imagery and video on twitter (see e.g. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo), at least from locations where they didn't kick out the "press". BLM and Antifa, in fact, might be the reason why Trump wins the election on Nov 3.

nemothekid 6y ago
>Except of course BLM and Antifa physically exist And Q... doesnt? What are you implying? >see nearly every day in downtown Portland >https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo So Q doesn't exist, despite "plenty of imagery and video on twitter", but I should take "MrAndyNgo", a Twitter nobody completely at face value? I've been to Portland recently. Plenty of people were outside eating at restaurants. The "anarchy" is greatly overblown by the media. I don't mean to downplay the impact of either movement, but to dismiss QAnon as "liberal conspiracy" when simultaneously only getting news from, what seems like a Twitter agitator, AndyNgo is concerning.
- m0zg 6y ago
  He's not a "twitter nobody", he's a blue check journalist who runs https://thepostmillennial.com/ https://thepostmillennial.com/ and frequently appears on TV. All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like. So if we were going down the list of dangerous societal things to address it would be nowhere close to the top.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
    >All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like. Bruh what? Qanon has incited a lot of violence. Getting someone to commit acts of violence on your behalf is worse than specific acts of violence by people that choose to do so without provocation. [0]. Anyways, comparing qanon, an anonymous conspiratorial propagandist to BLM: >decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people. [1] ...or antifa, [2]: >an anti-fascist action and left-wing political movement in the United States comprising an array of autonomous groups and individuals that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform. ...which are basically spontaneously formed groups of people supporting specific political causes... indicates that you do not understand the complexity of events since qanons appearance. yet you speak confidently as if you did and go on to condemn countless millions that support antifa or blm for their tenuous proximal association to anarchists or looters. Such irrational comparisons indicate an emotional response to whatever you perceive antifa and blm to represent. Antifa and blm protests make specific demands at their demonstrations. Time and time again we see their demonstrations disrupted by radicalized agent provocateurs, opportunists, anarchists and others. Please disambiguate yourself when speaking about millions of people. It's easy to say an opportunistic person looting target is blm. Just as easy as it is to say anyone defending qanon, or intimidating voters by playing soldier at polling places is a proud boy/Aryan brother/whatever racist right wing group is in the news for a hate crime that day. Proud boys, kkk, Aryan Brotherhood and countless others are violent terrorist organizations that have initial ceremonies, membership lists, and responsibilities. Antifa and blm do not. Trump can't even condemn white supremacists in the most generic of terms. On top of that he's frequently referenced q conspiracies lending whatever credibility you attribute to trump to qanon. The link between trump, qanon, and racist terrorist organizations is stronger than any links between the countless millions of people who fly antifa or blm signs. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violence-crimes-timeline https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violen... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)