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Regarding ARIN listing a defunct entity as owner: keep in mind that TONS of telecom infrastructure is listed as being owned by defunct companies that were acqui

Regarding ARIN listing a defunct entity as owner: keep in mind that TONS of telecom infrastructure is listed as being owned by defunct companies that were acquired/merged into other companies, or simply reincorporated in a new jurisdiction. For example, the concrete blockhouse where my neighborhood's DSL modems live sites on land owned by an entity that hasn't existed for a decade. This is according to the county auditor, who is the highest non-judicial authority when it comes to real estate ownership. When CenturyLink bought the old telco they never bothered to update the deed. That doesn't mean I can go squat on that land. It just means the records weren't updated when the acquisition happened.

otterlicious 6y ago
Acquired isn't defunct. The archaically named entity that owns your local telco cabinet almost certainly still exists: http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/Affiliates_List_061514.pdf http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/...
- octoberfranklin 6y ago
  It really is defunct. The corporation "US West" is no longer registered. Acquirors don't keep their acquisitions' corpses registered forever.
  - otterley 6y ago
    All of US West’s assets were acquired as part of the merger transaction. In this case, there’s no evidence of a similar acquisition.
    - octoberfranklin 6y ago
      No evidence that you're aware of. Because they're not a publicly-traded company like US West. This is unsurprising.
      - otterley 6y ago
        It doesn't matter whether I, personally, am aware of this. It matters whether the organizations with whom the acquired entity did business are aware of it. It's the responsibility of the acquiring entity to keep those parties informed. And since some of these parties publish public information, it seems logical that we would be able to determine such acquisitions by looking at their public records.

otterlicious 6y ago

Acquired isn't defunct. The archaically named entity that owns your local telco cabinet almost certainly still exists: http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/Affiliates_List_061514.pdf http://www.centurylink.com/static/PDF/AboutUs/DoingBusiness/...

octoberfranklin 6y ago
It really is defunct. The corporation "US West" is no longer registered. Acquirors don't keep their acquisitions' corpses registered forever.
- otterley 6y ago
  All of US West’s assets were acquired as part of the merger transaction. In this case, there’s no evidence of a similar acquisition.
  - octoberfranklin 6y ago
    No evidence that you're aware of. Because they're not a publicly-traded company like US West. This is unsurprising.
    - otterley 6y ago
      It doesn't matter whether I, personally, am aware of this. It matters whether the organizations with whom the acquired entity did business are aware of it. It's the responsibility of the acquiring entity to keep those parties informed. And since some of these parties publish public information, it seems logical that we would be able to determine such acquisitions by looking at their public records.