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> I'm terrified of climate change. Why? There's no rational reason to be terrified, unless you've been propagandized. Climate change is generally considered t

> I'm terrified of climate change. Why? There's no rational reason to be terrified, unless you've been propagandized. Climate change is generally considered to be a gradual problem eveolving over the next 80 years, while we've had corona pandemics since 2003. People die every day of poverty and malnutrition.

danielsju6 6y ago
Oh so only potentially civilization altering changes within my and my children’s lifetime... yeah no reason to be worried.
- jnxx 6y ago
  I am almost envious that you are dealing with worry, because I am often dealing with extreme sadness when looking at the whole situation. I have to accept that I am way more attached to life around me, and depending on it, than I would ever have admitted. And yet the civilization I belong to is destroying it.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  > yeah no reason to be worried. HN has really turned into a joke - full of self-pity yet lacking in logic. How does panicking today help at all? It doesn't. How does your personal worrying help at all? It doesn't. Are you affected today? No, you're not. If all you're doing is passively reading news, then worrying is unproductive. To state what should be obvious in 2020, there is always another crisis. If mankind wants to do something about climate change, then they have about 80 years. So far no country has done anything, which shows you people's true priority. If you personally want to get involved, there's lots to do over the next 80 years. But panic, sadness and pity won't get you anywhere. The world dosn't need another hysterical Greta Thunberg.
pfdietz 6y ago
Many of the largest mass extinctions have been associated with rapid increase in atmospheric CO2, including the largest, the end-Permian mass extinction, during which the equatorial regions of Earth became too hot for vertebrate life to survive.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  Mankind is already responsible for on-going mass extinction, and that's pre-climate change. So fixating on climate change is myopic at best. There are many problems to work on now, and over the next 80 years.
  - pfdietz 6y ago
    The Big Five mass extinctions, and especially the end-Permian one, were vastly worse than today's species losses, at least so far.
tracer4201 6y ago
Interesting take that because X and Y are issues, we should ignore an upcoming disaster that impacts the entire planet and somehow any serious concern means we've been "propagandized". The only serious Corona virus pandemic is today, in 2020, not in 2003. Unsurprisingly, the people leading the charge to stifle measures aimed at preventing climate change also happen to be the very ones who stated that COVID 19 is a hoax, a conspiracy (first the US Democratic Party was blamed responsible for the hoax) – but soon it became the Chinese virus, and now they have no solution other than to encourage people from stop testing altogether and to stop wearing masks altogether. Mind boggling.

danielsju6 6y ago

Oh so only potentially civilization altering changes within my and my children’s lifetime... yeah no reason to be worried.

jnxx 6y ago
I am almost envious that you are dealing with worry, because I am often dealing with extreme sadness when looking at the whole situation. I have to accept that I am way more attached to life around me, and depending on it, than I would ever have admitted. And yet the civilization I belong to is destroying it.
redis_mlc 6y ago
> yeah no reason to be worried. HN has really turned into a joke - full of self-pity yet lacking in logic. How does panicking today help at all? It doesn't. How does your personal worrying help at all? It doesn't. Are you affected today? No, you're not. If all you're doing is passively reading news, then worrying is unproductive. To state what should be obvious in 2020, there is always another crisis. If mankind wants to do something about climate change, then they have about 80 years. So far no country has done anything, which shows you people's true priority. If you personally want to get involved, there's lots to do over the next 80 years. But panic, sadness and pity won't get you anywhere. The world dosn't need another hysterical Greta Thunberg.

pfdietz 6y ago

Many of the largest mass extinctions have been associated with rapid increase in atmospheric CO2, including the largest, the end-Permian mass extinction, during which the equatorial regions of Earth became too hot for vertebrate life to survive.

redis_mlc 6y ago
Mankind is already responsible for on-going mass extinction, and that's pre-climate change. So fixating on climate change is myopic at best. There are many problems to work on now, and over the next 80 years.
- pfdietz 6y ago
  The Big Five mass extinctions, and especially the end-Permian one, were vastly worse than today's species losses, at least so far.

tracer4201 6y ago

Interesting take that because X and Y are issues, we should ignore an upcoming disaster that impacts the entire planet and somehow any serious concern means we've been "propagandized". The only serious Corona virus pandemic is today, in 2020, not in 2003. Unsurprisingly, the people leading the charge to stifle measures aimed at preventing climate change also happen to be the very ones who stated that COVID 19 is a hoax, a conspiracy (first the US Democratic Party was blamed responsible for the hoax) – but soon it became the Chinese virus, and now they have no solution other than to encourage people from stop testing altogether and to stop wearing masks altogether. Mind boggling.