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Andy Kelley (of Zig) intimidated into vacating apartment for Hulu filming

186 points by Jayschwa 6y ago

mc32 6y ago
What the ? Sounds like a amateur mob intimidation. Would hope Hulu does the right thing and severely punishes this unacceptable behavior. Who do people think they are, really?
- Jayschwa 6y ago
  The landlord, a [redacted] engineer, was bragging about it on LinkedIn: [link redacted]
  - kemonocode 6y ago
    Here's hoping he'll be rethinking his "backup career" real soon, then.
    - conro1108 6y ago
      Some part of me is hoping he'll have to fall back on a backup career after this kind of behavior.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
    [redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law. If he'll do this for his house to appear in a web show what would be do when Vladimir from Russia offers him $1.000.000 to stick a USB drive into his work machine?
    - RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
      > [redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law. Be careful. They might use that as justification to promote him to Vice President and put him on the board.
  - mr_woozy 6y ago
    This seems to be the location manager that's involved: [redacted]
    - webmaven 6y ago
      *> This seems to be the location manager that's involved: [redacted] I wonder if all that (quite commendable) volunteer work is some sort of karma offset for the terrible things her job makes her do...
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - chronolitus 6y ago
    @dang: so far googling these posts' texts does not lead me to the linkedin page or profile. Please redact this if you believe it constitues doxxing. The linkedin post text is something like this: "Shrill Season 3 will be filming at my house in [place] starting on [date]. A new character on the show will be living at my house. Maybe show-business will be my backup career." There's a follow up post which reads: "Please ignore posts about me from a disgruntled tenant. I wish to keep the issue private. Issues related to tampering and damage to my property are involved."
phs 6y ago
> This is retaliation related to the taping of Shrill Season 3. Just to know what to skip
toyg 6y ago
TL;DW: Andy lives in a rented apartment in Portland that Hulu’s “Shill” series wanted to film in, but couldn’t agree on compensation levels. Landlord (who lives in the building) basically decided he wants this thing done, and started the whole “crazy neighbour” routine: shouting through walls, insulting him, staring through windows, taking down the mailbox, and removing the wifi network. Andy seems to have moved out, and I guess will sue the guy for breaching the lease. The landlord seems like a piece of work. All this to be able to say at parties “hey, my house was used to film that tv series <that nobody remembers anymore>”. I hope somebody throws the book at him. Even sadder, the production crew doesn’t seem to care. I guess you don’t win an Emmy without breaking some dude’s life, or something.
- Jarwain 6y ago
  Wait so was the landlord just shilling for the production company?
  - toyg 6y ago
    I see what you did there.
  - syspec 6y ago
    Please no, while I admit that was funny I come to hackernews for the intelligent discourse. Please don't let hackernews slowly turn into zingers and one-liners
    - spoopyskelly 6y ago
      HUMOR DETECTED! ANNIHILATE!
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
  - tarboreus 6y ago
    This isn't Reddit.
SommaRaikkonen 6y ago
Here's the video that Andrew uploaded to show some evidence of harassment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYUAgXR8Y0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYUAgXR8Y0
woggy 6y ago
This is an awful situation for Andy. Very sad he has had to go through this.
mr_woozy 6y ago
Seems like simple enough thing to bring attention to while everyone else is stuck indoors self isolating anyway.
mr_woozy 6y ago
Why has no one suggested he call the police yet?
- mr_woozy 6y ago
  My bad I noticed on twitter he has once already "Updates: * he started played the song again. * he started staring at me through my front window and banging on it. * I phoned 911. Two police offers arrived and got him to stop playing the music."
Akababa 6y ago
I don't get it. If the landlord wants the filming to happen so badly, why doesn't he kick in a few grand to compensate his tenant... That's a lot easier than kicking and screaming all night.
- reitzensteinm 6y ago
  They are clearly not being rational. Andy leaving for his personal safety is absolutely the right move. Anyone this aggressive with demonstrably impaired judgement presents a significant threat. Almost all the time they'll come to their senses. Sometimes they'll escalate. I have been present for an escalation, a completely irrational one that totally ruined the guy's life. And he was more pulled together beforehand than the behavior in that video.
- brnt 6y ago
  When people say poverty affects your brain, this is one of the things they mean. Now, the landlord probably isn't poor, but from a poor or normal background, where money isn't abundant enough for such solutions.
  - syspec 6y ago
    He's a [redacted] yield engineer, and property owner. Not sure where poverty comes into play. [link redacted]
  - washadjeffmad 6y ago
    It sounds like the opposite, to me. He's a man whose moral compass only aligns to his own self-interest, what's going to enrich him more at any cost, which happens when people lose empathy. In general, poverty makes humans kinder and more charitable, not crazy and dishonest, while selfishness and apathy for others scales with wealth and resources.
syspec 6y ago
I believe the landlord feels compelled to make it happen because he's already told people that it is for sure happening. [link redacted]
- Nullabillity 6y ago
  Of course the guy works at [redacted]...
  - dang 6y ago
    I redacted this comment - explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704
- dang 6y ago
  We got a user complaint about this thread containing doxxing. I know that word means different things to different people, but generally we try to err on the side of avoiding such things, since it's not in keeping with or necessary for HN's mandate. I've redacted this comment accordingly, to take out personal details.
dang 6y ago
All: I made some redactions in this thread after we got a complaint about (possible) doxxing. All of the changes are marked [redacted]. More explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704
- reitzensteinm 6y ago
  FWIW, I think the complaint was legitimate and the redaction was well handled. In a perfect world there'd be a marker for "this post has been edited by an administrator", but clearly marking each change makes do in a pinch.

186 points by Jayschwa 6y ago

mc32 6y ago

What the ? Sounds like a amateur mob intimidation. Would hope Hulu does the right thing and severely punishes this unacceptable behavior. Who do people think they are, really?

Jayschwa 6y ago
The landlord, a [redacted] engineer, was bragging about it on LinkedIn: [link redacted]
- kemonocode 6y ago
  Here's hoping he'll be rethinking his "backup career" real soon, then.
  - conro1108 6y ago
    Some part of me is hoping he'll have to fall back on a backup career after this kind of behavior.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  [redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law. If he'll do this for his house to appear in a web show what would be do when Vladimir from Russia offers him $1.000.000 to stick a USB drive into his work machine?
  - RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
    > [redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law. Be careful. They might use that as justification to promote him to Vice President and put him on the board.
- mr_woozy 6y ago
  This seems to be the location manager that's involved: [redacted]
  - webmaven 6y ago
    *> This seems to be the location manager that's involved: [redacted] I wonder if all that (quite commendable) volunteer work is some sort of karma offset for the terrible things her job makes her do...
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- chronolitus 6y ago
  @dang: so far googling these posts' texts does not lead me to the linkedin page or profile. Please redact this if you believe it constitues doxxing. The linkedin post text is something like this: "Shrill Season 3 will be filming at my house in [place] starting on [date]. A new character on the show will be living at my house. Maybe show-business will be my backup career." There's a follow up post which reads: "Please ignore posts about me from a disgruntled tenant. I wish to keep the issue private. Issues related to tampering and damage to my property are involved."

phs 6y ago

> This is retaliation related to the taping of Shrill Season 3. Just to know what to skip

toyg 6y ago

TL;DW: Andy lives in a rented apartment in Portland that Hulu’s “Shill” series wanted to film in, but couldn’t agree on compensation levels. Landlord (who lives in the building) basically decided he wants this thing done, and started the whole “crazy neighbour” routine: shouting through walls, insulting him, staring through windows, taking down the mailbox, and removing the wifi network. Andy seems to have moved out, and I guess will sue the guy for breaching the lease. The landlord seems like a piece of work. All this to be able to say at parties “hey, my house was used to film that tv series <that nobody remembers anymore>”. I hope somebody throws the book at him. Even sadder, the production crew doesn’t seem to care. I guess you don’t win an Emmy without breaking some dude’s life, or something.

Jarwain 6y ago
Wait so was the landlord just shilling for the production company?
- toyg 6y ago
  I see what you did there.
- syspec 6y ago
  Please no, while I admit that was funny I come to hackernews for the intelligent discourse. Please don't let hackernews slowly turn into zingers and one-liners
  - spoopyskelly 6y ago
    HUMOR DETECTED! ANNIHILATE!
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- tarboreus 6y ago
  This isn't Reddit.

SommaRaikkonen 6y ago

Here's the video that Andrew uploaded to show some evidence of harassment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYUAgXR8Y0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYUAgXR8Y0

woggy 6y ago

This is an awful situation for Andy. Very sad he has had to go through this.

mr_woozy 6y ago

Seems like simple enough thing to bring attention to while everyone else is stuck indoors self isolating anyway.

mr_woozy 6y ago

Why has no one suggested he call the police yet?

mr_woozy 6y ago
My bad I noticed on twitter he has once already "Updates: * he started played the song again. * he started staring at me through my front window and banging on it. * I phoned 911. Two police offers arrived and got him to stop playing the music."

Akababa 6y ago

I don't get it. If the landlord wants the filming to happen so badly, why doesn't he kick in a few grand to compensate his tenant... That's a lot easier than kicking and screaming all night.

reitzensteinm 6y ago
They are clearly not being rational. Andy leaving for his personal safety is absolutely the right move. Anyone this aggressive with demonstrably impaired judgement presents a significant threat. Almost all the time they'll come to their senses. Sometimes they'll escalate. I have been present for an escalation, a completely irrational one that totally ruined the guy's life. And he was more pulled together beforehand than the behavior in that video.
brnt 6y ago
When people say poverty affects your brain, this is one of the things they mean. Now, the landlord probably isn't poor, but from a poor or normal background, where money isn't abundant enough for such solutions.
- syspec 6y ago
  He's a [redacted] yield engineer, and property owner. Not sure where poverty comes into play. [link redacted]
- washadjeffmad 6y ago
  It sounds like the opposite, to me. He's a man whose moral compass only aligns to his own self-interest, what's going to enrich him more at any cost, which happens when people lose empathy. In general, poverty makes humans kinder and more charitable, not crazy and dishonest, while selfishness and apathy for others scales with wealth and resources.

syspec 6y ago

I believe the landlord feels compelled to make it happen because he's already told people that it is for sure happening. [link redacted]

Nullabillity 6y ago
Of course the guy works at [redacted]...
- dang 6y ago
  I redacted this comment - explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704
dang 6y ago
We got a user complaint about this thread containing doxxing. I know that word means different things to different people, but generally we try to err on the side of avoiding such things, since it's not in keeping with or necessary for HN's mandate. I've redacted this comment accordingly, to take out personal details.

dang 6y ago

All: I made some redactions in this thread after we got a complaint about (possible) doxxing. All of the changes are marked [redacted]. More explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704

reitzensteinm 6y ago
FWIW, I think the complaint was legitimate and the redaction was well handled. In a perfect world there'd be a marker for "this post has been edited by an administrator", but clearly marking each change makes do in a pinch.