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The removal of youtube-dl is a loss to the open source community. I hope this does not set a precedence going forward and that authors re-establish themselves (

by tbabej 6y ago

The removal of youtube-dl is a loss to the open source community. I hope this does not set a precedence going forward and that authors re-establish themselves (and the bug tracker, which had immense amount of information). At the same time, this lead me to browse the Github's DMCA repo, which has some real gems. For example, this DMCA takedown of repo with copied course assignment of a different student and did not comply with the Apache 2.0 Licence [1]. [1] https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-22-Exam.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-2...

tbabej 6y ago
Removal of repositories like youtube-dl seems to have been happening for a while though, here are couple of examples: Removal of Udemy-dl (2015,2017): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2015/2015-08-12-Udemy.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2015/2015-08-12-U... https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2017/2017-11-13-Udemy-2.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2017/2017-11-13-U... Removal of linuxacademy-dl (2018): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-09-24-linuxacademy.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-09-24-l... Removal of Instagram-API (2020): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/01/2020-01-22-facebook.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/01/2020-01-2...
- R0b0t1 6y ago
  py-kms (https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms) was taken down briefly but remains up, so there is hope. These projects are just instructions, it's like selling a kit for a radio that is illegal to put together and use. The kit itself isn't illegal.
dyingkneepad 6y ago
I remember back in 2008 I read a research paper on what to not do when publishing/advertising peer-to-peer networks in order to avoid stuff such as RIAA. Showing copyright-protected work in your website/screenshots/etc was a big thing. Sadly I cannot find the paper anymore and I don't remember all the advice :( If someone here with a good research-paper-search-fu can find the paper, it would help help our community a lot. All I remember is that it was from some peer-to-peer conference, and I read it in 2008.
- roboyoshi 6y ago
  I only found the p2p08 conference: https://dblp.uni-trier.de/db/conf/p2p/p2p2008.html https://dblp.uni-trier.de/db/conf/p2p/p2p2008.html But none of the papers look like what you've been talking about.
rozab 6y ago
Seems like that student has admitted in the most public and irreversible way possible that they have distributed their coursework online, almost certainly in contravention of academic policy.
kevinwang 6y ago
insane that nintendo is so litigious that they send lawyers to take down fan-made games meant to be patched on Ocarina of Time. What, is this fan game gonna detract from the valuable income you're making on a 22 year old game for the Nintendo 64?? It's at their own detriment... https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-09-nintendo.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-0... https://www.pcgamer.com/the-missing-link-is-an-impressive-and-eerie-zelda-romhack-years-in-the-making/ https://www.pcgamer.com/the-missing-link-is-an-impressive-an...
- umvi 6y ago
  Lawyers have no sense of humor. They are like the opposite of hackers.
  - krapp 6y ago
    >Lawyers have no sense of humor. They are like the opposite of hackers. Although you're posting this on a forum for hackers where humor is considered a mortal sin.
    - dasb 6y ago
      Humor is just held to higher standards compared to other forums. Most of us can't attain that standard so we don't make humorous comments.
      - isatty 6y ago
        Yeah let’s not pretend we’re better than anyone else. What the parent comment said is accurate.
    - umvi 6y ago
      low effort drive-by puns are looked down on here on this particular forum, sure. But playful hijinks like getting your o-scope to run DOOM is what hackers thrive on.
junon 6y ago
> I hope this does not set a precedence Psst, precedent* :) Precedence is the order of importance in which something occurs (e.g. operator precedence). Precedent is a level of standard to which a secondary action is compared. --- Also that dude's a fucking legend, DMCA takedown-ing his classmate.

by tbabej 6y ago

tbabej 6y ago

Removal of repositories like youtube-dl seems to have been happening for a while though, here are couple of examples: Removal of Udemy-dl (2015,2017): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2015/2015-08-12-Udemy.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2015/2015-08-12-U... https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2017/2017-11-13-Udemy-2.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2017/2017-11-13-U... Removal of linuxacademy-dl (2018): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-09-24-linuxacademy.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-09-24-l... Removal of Instagram-API (2020): https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/01/2020-01-22-facebook.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/01/2020-01-2...

R0b0t1 6y ago
py-kms (https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms https://github.com/SystemRage/py-kms) was taken down briefly but remains up, so there is hope. These projects are just instructions, it's like selling a kit for a radio that is illegal to put together and use. The kit itself isn't illegal.

dyingkneepad 6y ago

I remember back in 2008 I read a research paper on what to not do when publishing/advertising peer-to-peer networks in order to avoid stuff such as RIAA. Showing copyright-protected work in your website/screenshots/etc was a big thing. Sadly I cannot find the paper anymore and I don't remember all the advice :( If someone here with a good research-paper-search-fu can find the paper, it would help help our community a lot. All I remember is that it was from some peer-to-peer conference, and I read it in 2008.

roboyoshi 6y ago
I only found the p2p08 conference: https://dblp.uni-trier.de/db/conf/p2p/p2p2008.html https://dblp.uni-trier.de/db/conf/p2p/p2p2008.html But none of the papers look like what you've been talking about.

rozab 6y ago

Seems like that student has admitted in the most public and irreversible way possible that they have distributed their coursework online, almost certainly in contravention of academic policy.

kevinwang 6y ago

insane that nintendo is so litigious that they send lawyers to take down fan-made games meant to be patched on Ocarina of Time. What, is this fan game gonna detract from the valuable income you're making on a 22 year old game for the Nintendo 64?? It's at their own detriment... https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-09-nintendo.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-0... https://www.pcgamer.com/the-missing-link-is-an-impressive-and-eerie-zelda-romhack-years-in-the-making/ https://www.pcgamer.com/the-missing-link-is-an-impressive-an...

umvi 6y ago
Lawyers have no sense of humor. They are like the opposite of hackers.
- krapp 6y ago
  >Lawyers have no sense of humor. They are like the opposite of hackers. Although you're posting this on a forum for hackers where humor is considered a mortal sin.
  - dasb 6y ago
    Humor is just held to higher standards compared to other forums. Most of us can't attain that standard so we don't make humorous comments.
    - isatty 6y ago
      Yeah let’s not pretend we’re better than anyone else. What the parent comment said is accurate.
  - umvi 6y ago
    low effort drive-by puns are looked down on here on this particular forum, sure. But playful hijinks like getting your o-scope to run DOOM is what hackers thrive on.

junon 6y ago

> I hope this does not set a precedence Psst, precedent* :) Precedence is the order of importance in which something occurs (e.g. operator precedence). Precedent is a level of standard to which a secondary action is compared. --- Also that dude's a fucking legend, DMCA takedown-ing his classmate.