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An ed-tech specialist spoke out about proctoring software. Now he’s being sued

31 points by ridgewell 6y ago

ironmagma 6y ago
Trying to control someone's eye movements, or even just claiming you can understand the motivation behind someone's eye movements is completely draconian, awful, and wrong.
cycomanic 6y ago
I've seen this quite a bit during the pandemic, universities seem almost more concerned with exams than how to teach well in the current situation. The amount of money being poured into tools to prevent cheating (which can be circumvented relatively easily) is astonishing.
- hakfoo 6y ago
  Doesn't surprise me. They're in the certification business more than the education business. Promising rigorous proctored tests gives their degrees more credibility than a self-awarded collection of MOOC course completions.
atty 6y ago
So many kids (and adults) already have terrible anxiety when it comes to test taking - and now these companies think that the best way to handle cheating is to have computers monitoring them every moment of an exam? I am glad I am no longer in school - this would make me five times more anxious and uncomfortable. Cheating is a problem, of course, but it’s a problem that really only affects the cheater. As long as an institution is making an honest effort to maintain academic integrity, that should be good enough. Tools like these seem extremely out of line.
pacamara619 6y ago
If someone can easily cheat on your exam by using a cheat sheet and get a good grade what value are you as an educator providing, really?
- avmich 6y ago
  So we can't safely assume it's possible - and reasonable to expect - to have exams which can't be cheated upon? Is it that hard to do?
ExcavateGrandMa 6y ago
both case are awful... the software and the worker... Is that futur? U already fail hard before... and this wont solve any problem instead you'll have more & more... You wont solve anything this way. To me the real goal from this software isn't for the purpose... The known purpose is a surface to another scheme they looking... Have a nice day.

31 points by ridgewell 6y ago

Trying to control someone's eye movements, or even just claiming you can understand the motivation behind someone's eye movements is completely draconian, awful, and wrong.

cycomanic 6y ago

I've seen this quite a bit during the pandemic, universities seem almost more concerned with exams than how to teach well in the current situation. The amount of money being poured into tools to prevent cheating (which can be circumvented relatively easily) is astonishing.

hakfoo 6y ago
Doesn't surprise me. They're in the certification business more than the education business. Promising rigorous proctored tests gives their degrees more credibility than a self-awarded collection of MOOC course completions.

atty 6y ago

So many kids (and adults) already have terrible anxiety when it comes to test taking - and now these companies think that the best way to handle cheating is to have computers monitoring them every moment of an exam? I am glad I am no longer in school - this would make me five times more anxious and uncomfortable. Cheating is a problem, of course, but it’s a problem that really only affects the cheater. As long as an institution is making an honest effort to maintain academic integrity, that should be good enough. Tools like these seem extremely out of line.

pacamara619 6y ago

If someone can easily cheat on your exam by using a cheat sheet and get a good grade what value are you as an educator providing, really?

avmich 6y ago
So we can't safely assume it's possible - and reasonable to expect - to have exams which can't be cheated upon? Is it that hard to do?

ExcavateGrandMa 6y ago

both case are awful... the software and the worker... Is that futur? U already fail hard before... and this wont solve any problem instead you'll have more & more... You wont solve anything this way. To me the real goal from this software isn't for the purpose... The known purpose is a surface to another scheme they looking... Have a nice day.