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Again, you're clearly baiting. I said I don't care about police dying, not people. The police can quit whenever they want. You keep twisting what people say
by MegaButts 6y ago
Again, you're clearly baiting. I said I don't care about police dying, not people. The police can quit whenever they want.
You keep twisting what people say only to respond with gotchas and try to wear down your opponents.
- zepto 6y agoThere is no twisting going on here. No gotchas. You are saying that you don’t care about police dying. I could point out that police are people, so what you are doing here is to dehumanize anyone who you consider to be police. However, I accept that you wouldn’t recognize that argument, because you then go on to say, that they can quit whenever they want. I.e. they can avoid being killed by simply making the choice not to be Police. This is the very definition of political violence - threatening the lives of people who support institutions you don’t like.
- MegaButts 6y agoAgain with the twisting of words. I'm not threatening anyone or advocating for violence, I'm saying I choose the people over the police.
- zepto 6y ago“I'd prefer vigilante justice over that.” “I will always choose the people over the police, even if the people are violent. A public mob is better than a police mob.” “Until the police are held accountable to the public, I feel no remorse for anything that happens to them.” “the public needs to do it by whatever means necessary even if that harms innocent police officers” Seems pretty clear what you are advocating. You don’t have to say things like this if they aren’t what you mean.
- MegaButts 6y agoYep - I stand by all that because I choose the public over the police. I don't care what happens to the police doesn't mean I want anything bad to happen, it means I don't care. If I say I don't care about you it doesn't mean I wish you harm it means I'm indifferent. I choose to help the people, not the police.
- zepto 6y agoThose are not statements of indifference. They are statements that advocate violence. Let’s consider an example: “the public needs to do it by whatever means necessary even if that harms innocent police officers” Advocating methods that knowingly include harming the innocent is advocating violence. You are clearly advocating violence. Why not just admit it?
- MegaButts 6y agoI'm not advocating violence. You're seeing what you want to see.
- zepto 6y agoI note that you haven’t addressed the evidence I presented, but have instead resorted to gaslighting.
- MegaButts 6y agoSure I did! Just read my previous comments. No need for us to be repetitive here :)
- zepto 6y agoYou didn’t address this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24874243 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24874243 I think it’s reasonable to assume you won’t, because if you could have without resorting to denial and gaslighting, you would have done.
- MegaButts 6y agoLike I said, I'm indifferent towards the police. I don't care what happens to them. That doesn't mean I want bad things to happen to them. As I said before and you never addressed: if I say I don't care about you, does that mean I'm advocating violence against you?