Was going to ask the same thing. There's not much in PHP 5/7/8 which precludes just doing some raw db queries and including some templates. The biggest 'drawb

Was going to ask the same thing. There's not much in PHP 5/7/8 which precludes just doing some raw db queries and including some templates. The biggest 'drawback' might be that there's not one name-branch 'framework' which takes this approach (indeed, it's the opposite of 'framework' thinking). But if there was some project that documented/demonstrated 'best practices' for 'non-framework' projects, it might help reduce the "I need a framework because raw PHP is so messy" objections.