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If you actually read the email there is no “or else” or any other implied threat in there. So it’s rather disingenuous to add the implication when you simply do
by flipgimble 6y ago
If you actually read the email there is no “or else” or any other implied threat in there. So it’s rather disingenuous to add the implication when you simply don’t agree that the current political regime of Trumpism is steadily devolving the US into theocratic totalitarianism and a possible civil war. Given a plot to kidnap a Governor and a refusal to agree to a peaceful transfer of power, one must be in deep denial to not see the justification for this warning.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoThis comment is really bizarre and I’m not sure how to respond. I’ll just point out that the plot to kidnap the governor had more ties to the anarchist left than to Trump.
- dsr_ 6y agoCite your sources, please.
- ceilingcorner 6y agohttps://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/21/viral-image/looking-ideologies-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-suspect/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/21/viral-imag... A video clip shows another suspect, Brandon Caserta, standing in front of an anarchist flag saying Trump is a "tyrant.” The right wing media seems to want to associate the actions with the Left or BLM, which seems like a reach. But I don’t see how someone calling Trump a tyrant can possibly be associated with Trump himself.
- dsr_ 6y agoYou are citing a source in support of this statement: "I’ll just point out that the plot to kidnap the governor had more ties to the anarchist left than to Trump." and your source does not back that up, and now you are saying "seems like a reach" about the subject of your own statement.
- ceilingcorner 6y ago- One member of the group attended a BLM rally. - Anarchism is traditionally associated with the left (broadly, that is, not the Democratic (big D) left) and one of the members called Trump a tyrant with an anarchist flag in the background. Trump can't simultaneously be an anarchist and a tyrant. That makes no sense. I also remind you that I merely said "there is more evidence" than "it is directly connected."
- projektfu 6y agoFrom your source: Boogaloo movement more likely, experts say Cooter, who recently dug into this issue on Twitter, told us she’s seen "zero evidence that (the suspects) are antifa." She speculated that some people are conflating anarchy and antifa to try to divert attention away from the suspects’ militia connections.
- Kbelicius 6y agoThe plot to kidnap the governor was made by people that are associated with the far right. How in the world is that closer to anarchist left than to Trump?
- thechao 6y agoThe Wolverine Watchmen are a far right militia group; they are anti-govt anarchists. Their dog whistles are the Confederacy, Original-13, etc.; members are known to parrot QAnon.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoStill unclear to me how that makes them associated with Trump, especially when one of their members explicitly says Trump is a tyrant. Imagine a far left group did the same thing and also called Obama a tyrant. Is Obama responsible for them? I don't think so.
- thechao 6y agoI never said anything about Trump.
- flipgimble 6y agoJust want to point out the diversion tactics used here. This response throws a tangential, obscure point, while avoiding addressing the central topic that Trump incites and encourages violence from his podium, (“lock her up”, standby to white supremacists etc etc) thereby destabilizing the country where businesses could thrive.
- ceilingcorner 6y agoWhat? The comment I replied to is suggesting Trump is a theocratic authoritarian. We had this same rhetoric four years ago. It's clearly absurd. I don't like Trump, didn't vote for him, and won't be voting for him, but this constant over-reactive nonsense is really unhelpful. Biden is a weak candidate, perhaps the weakest in decades. Everyone that doesn't vote for him isn't some kind of right wing lunatic fringe figure intent on destroying democracy.