There's different kinds of best. I think its fair to say that a lot these people are the best when it comes to the scoped problem of consumer apps (and similarl

There's different kinds of best. I think its fair to say that a lot these people are the best when it comes to the scoped problem of consumer apps (and similarly, the Google guys are terrible at this, and they're both important fronts -- I don't think Google could have pulled of the original Mac which is just as important as many of the problems they work on). And as such, I don't feel that because you are "just" a consumer app guy its fair to essentially say stick to these trivialities. Imagine the design sense of some of these guys applied to medical or scientific apps. It would be incredible. I see my father use the most horrific and inefficient web interfaces in the universe to find papers or do gene cutting. Now there's a space waiting to be disrupted with usability.