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This is a useless statistic. What proportion of startups are founded by women? Only with this statistic can we draw a fair conclusion - and it's notably missing

This is a useless statistic. What proportion of startups are founded by women? Only with this statistic can we draw a fair conclusion - and it's notably missing from the entire article..

Rick1 6y ago
Well, it's useless if the purpose is to inform. If on the other hand the purpose is to create outrage...
gryzzly 6y ago
read two paragraphs, make an effort > All male teams made up 83% of the startups but they raised 93% of total funding, which means that they raised larger sums.
- subtypefiddler 6y ago
  The article doesn't give the proportion of mixed and all-female teams, just of all male teams. To quote you "make an effort".
  - xboxnolifes 6y ago
    While it doesn't mentioned mixed percentages, it does state the all-female teams in the very next sentence.
- Rick1 6y ago
  And all female teams made up 1%. "make an effort"
daleharvey 6y ago
If your definition of fairness is "we created an environment so toxic to an entire gender that they don't participate in it" Then sure.
- draugadrotten 6y ago
  Do you believe it is because of the toxic environment that CIS males don't participate in synchronized swimming.
  - daleharvey 6y ago
    There is certainly systematic inequality between particular sports for sure. There is a difference though of course, being excluded from a sport can on an individual level be sad it certainly doesnt have the same impact as an entire gender being exluded from wealth and power.
  - yokaze 6y ago
    Actually, I do. Not necessarily from the people doing synchronised swimming... Just imagine, if you yourself actually would like to do synchronised swimming, what would happen? How would the people around you react? How would that make you feel about it?
    - alextheparrot 6y ago
      A parallel experience I’ve had biases me towards expecting that people would most likely be supportive. I was the only guy in a hip hop dance class a friend invited me to - the instructor called out when I did moves right and generally made me feel like I was progressing. We should try things that interest us and be understanding that we won’t have the same status in those activities as the ones we’re good at. This isn’t to say that startup disparities are caused by personal anxiety (I personally believe the structural narrative more in that case). It is to say, though, that we sometimes build up personal barriers where none truly exist - especially for simple things like sports
      - yokaze 6y ago
        > This isn’t to say that startup disparities are caused by personal anxiety (I personally believe the structural narrative more in that case). I would say, it is not one or the other. If almost everyone of the same gender has the same fear, is it then a personal one? Isn't it reasonable to assume it to be the result of structural/cultural causes? Isn't that a problem by itself which is worthwhile to address regardless if the fear is founded or not. Sure, we should try to overcome our fears if they limit us, but I would claim, as a society we would be better of, if there wouldn't be a need in the first place. And yes, that applies to both genders, it just happens to be if we talk about career topics, it is usually one gender, that gets the short stick. If we look at emotional problems (suicide, crimes) it is the other.
supergirl 6y ago
> What proportion of startups are founded by women? Only with this statistic can we draw a fair conclusion The conclusion is pretty clear and damning for Nordic countries: for WHATEVER reasons women don't get funding. You can complain that the cause is not fully explained by these statistics. But the conclusion is pretty clear. Btw, the article does try to explain the numbers more: > All male teams made up 83% of the startups but they raised 93% of total funding, which means that they raised larger sums. > For all-female teams, the opposite was true. On top of the female-founded startups finding it difficult to raise any money at all, the 6% of startups that did, only received 1.3% of the funding. I only skimmed the article. I'm not sure if these numbers show how many women founders got NO funding. I think it's common sense that women founders are very rare. But I don't see how you can take consolation in this explanation.

This is a useless statistic. What proportion of startups are founded by women? Only with this statistic can we draw a fair conclusion - and it's notably missing from the entire article..

Rick1 6y ago

Well, it's useless if the purpose is to inform. If on the other hand the purpose is to create outrage...

gryzzly 6y ago

read two paragraphs, make an effort > All male teams made up 83% of the startups but they raised 93% of total funding, which means that they raised larger sums.

subtypefiddler 6y ago
The article doesn't give the proportion of mixed and all-female teams, just of all male teams. To quote you "make an effort".
- xboxnolifes 6y ago
  While it doesn't mentioned mixed percentages, it does state the all-female teams in the very next sentence.
Rick1 6y ago
And all female teams made up 1%. "make an effort"

daleharvey 6y ago

If your definition of fairness is "we created an environment so toxic to an entire gender that they don't participate in it" Then sure.

draugadrotten 6y ago
Do you believe it is because of the toxic environment that CIS males don't participate in synchronized swimming.
- daleharvey 6y ago
  There is certainly systematic inequality between particular sports for sure. There is a difference though of course, being excluded from a sport can on an individual level be sad it certainly doesnt have the same impact as an entire gender being exluded from wealth and power.
- yokaze 6y ago
  Actually, I do. Not necessarily from the people doing synchronised swimming... Just imagine, if you yourself actually would like to do synchronised swimming, what would happen? How would the people around you react? How would that make you feel about it?
  - alextheparrot 6y ago
    A parallel experience I’ve had biases me towards expecting that people would most likely be supportive. I was the only guy in a hip hop dance class a friend invited me to - the instructor called out when I did moves right and generally made me feel like I was progressing. We should try things that interest us and be understanding that we won’t have the same status in those activities as the ones we’re good at. This isn’t to say that startup disparities are caused by personal anxiety (I personally believe the structural narrative more in that case). It is to say, though, that we sometimes build up personal barriers where none truly exist - especially for simple things like sports
    - yokaze 6y ago
      > This isn’t to say that startup disparities are caused by personal anxiety (I personally believe the structural narrative more in that case). I would say, it is not one or the other. If almost everyone of the same gender has the same fear, is it then a personal one? Isn't it reasonable to assume it to be the result of structural/cultural causes? Isn't that a problem by itself which is worthwhile to address regardless if the fear is founded or not. Sure, we should try to overcome our fears if they limit us, but I would claim, as a society we would be better of, if there wouldn't be a need in the first place. And yes, that applies to both genders, it just happens to be if we talk about career topics, it is usually one gender, that gets the short stick. If we look at emotional problems (suicide, crimes) it is the other.

supergirl 6y ago

> What proportion of startups are founded by women? Only with this statistic can we draw a fair conclusion The conclusion is pretty clear and damning for Nordic countries: for WHATEVER reasons women don't get funding. You can complain that the cause is not fully explained by these statistics. But the conclusion is pretty clear. Btw, the article does try to explain the numbers more: > All male teams made up 83% of the startups but they raised 93% of total funding, which means that they raised larger sums. > For all-female teams, the opposite was true. On top of the female-founded startups finding it difficult to raise any money at all, the 6% of startups that did, only received 1.3% of the funding. I only skimmed the article. I'm not sure if these numbers show how many women founders got NO funding. I think it's common sense that women founders are very rare. But I don't see how you can take consolation in this explanation.