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I switched to Tidal for similar reasons and it has been really painful. Unfortunately the competition is so bad that Spotify can do really, really bad things be

by nxc18 6y ago

I switched to Tidal for similar reasons and it has been really painful. Unfortunately the competition is so bad that Spotify can do really, really bad things before it outweighs their overall competence at service delivery. I don’t understand how it got to this point; Tidal seems like the most viable option but I swear even back in 2008 the field had far more solid options (e.g. Zune, as much as it was a commercial failure, was really great to use IME). I just don’t understand how other streaming services haven’t delivered something like Spotify Connect yet. It has been available and basically the standard for streaming since 2014 at least.

viraptor 6y ago
> Unfortunately the competition is so bad Somehow Google had a really nice solution, but decided to kill it and replace with the broken YouTube music app. Given how few real competitors there were, I'm really confused by that one.
- teruakohatu 6y ago
  > I'm really confused by that one. Google is a specialist in killing good products. They owned the news reader space and could probably have datamined it but killed Reader. Edit: Removed a joke I made to avoid causing offense.
  - viraptor 6y ago
    They do kill projects, but these are not really comparable. People paid directly for Google music. They also did not really kill it, but rather replace with an inferior version aiming at the same business. This is not even comparable to the chat/hangouts/meet migration. I can find a reason, even if I don't agree with it, for most of their killed projects. This one is just... different.
    - teruakohatu 6y ago
      I am sorry, I was trying to make a lighthearted joke but it must not have come across this way. I have removed the joke. > People paid directly for Google music In the case of many people they were paying for Youtube Premium and got Google Music for free.
      - dragonwriter 6y ago
        > In the case of many people they were paying for Youtube Premium and got Google Music for free. In the case of many people, it worked the other way around.
- neves 6y ago
  Please let me disagree. Google Music has a terrible UI (as Spotify). Their only great feature is the ability to upload your own music. I'm moving to Spotify just because my friends create playlists there and they can share with me. Also the music discovery algorithms in Spotify are way better. My great pain is that I had terrible results with the softwares that I tried to use to move my playlists.
  - spacemanmatt 6y ago
    Google Music (Android) has been one of my favorite UX on the platform, ever. It is dirt simple and exposes their award-winning machine-learning powered search in useful ways. Spotify's looks attractive but daily use makes me miss Google's app. Spotify's web player loses pretty hard to Google's for me, as well. That said, I just can't stomach YT Music. I don't know what they were thinking. The new value proposition for Premium is ad-free YouTube, which I might just keep buying because I'm addicted to celebrity math professors, astronomy, and a few crafting/DIY channels these days. But I'm struggling to like a music service anymore.
    - neves 6y ago
      Sure GM has some nice features that I miss, but countless times I've clicked in the back button and left the app. I really hate it.

by nxc18 6y ago

viraptor 6y ago

> Unfortunately the competition is so bad Somehow Google had a really nice solution, but decided to kill it and replace with the broken YouTube music app. Given how few real competitors there were, I'm really confused by that one.

teruakohatu 6y ago
> I'm really confused by that one. Google is a specialist in killing good products. They owned the news reader space and could probably have datamined it but killed Reader. Edit: Removed a joke I made to avoid causing offense.
- viraptor 6y ago
  They do kill projects, but these are not really comparable. People paid directly for Google music. They also did not really kill it, but rather replace with an inferior version aiming at the same business. This is not even comparable to the chat/hangouts/meet migration. I can find a reason, even if I don't agree with it, for most of their killed projects. This one is just... different.
  - teruakohatu 6y ago
    I am sorry, I was trying to make a lighthearted joke but it must not have come across this way. I have removed the joke. > People paid directly for Google music In the case of many people they were paying for Youtube Premium and got Google Music for free.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > In the case of many people they were paying for Youtube Premium and got Google Music for free. In the case of many people, it worked the other way around.
neves 6y ago
Please let me disagree. Google Music has a terrible UI (as Spotify). Their only great feature is the ability to upload your own music. I'm moving to Spotify just because my friends create playlists there and they can share with me. Also the music discovery algorithms in Spotify are way better. My great pain is that I had terrible results with the softwares that I tried to use to move my playlists.
- spacemanmatt 6y ago
  Google Music (Android) has been one of my favorite UX on the platform, ever. It is dirt simple and exposes their award-winning machine-learning powered search in useful ways. Spotify's looks attractive but daily use makes me miss Google's app. Spotify's web player loses pretty hard to Google's for me, as well. That said, I just can't stomach YT Music. I don't know what they were thinking. The new value proposition for Premium is ad-free YouTube, which I might just keep buying because I'm addicted to celebrity math professors, astronomy, and a few crafting/DIY channels these days. But I'm struggling to like a music service anymore.
  - neves 6y ago
    Sure GM has some nice features that I miss, but countless times I've clicked in the back button and left the app. I really hate it.