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On a related note, people should download and run OONI Probe to monitor and record censorship on networks around the world. OONI Probe has tests for Telegram an

by aorth 6y ago

On a related note, people should download and run OONI Probe to monitor and record censorship on networks around the world. OONI Probe has tests for Telegram and WhatsApp, as well as middle boxes, blocked websites, etc.

ignoramous 6y ago
Link: https://ooni.org/ https://ooni.org/
- encom 6y ago
  Saved you a click: It's an Electron app.
  - janandonly 6y ago
    Does it matter what platform it is build on?
    - encom 6y ago
      To me, yes. I avoid Electron like the plague. I know others feel the same way, so think of it as community service. Javascript-on-desktop arguments are probably already taking up gigabytes of space in the HN database, so I'll just say it's for all the usual reasons.
      - cbluth 6y ago
        youd be surprised how well text compresses
        titanomachy 6y ago
        Especially text with a lot of repetition.
      - aquadrop 6y ago
        There's also a lot of people who don't feel the same way and I think you know it. So probably no need for "saved the click" part in your community service.
        ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
        People not liking electron isn't an affront to the people who do. Let's not police people's speech.
      - jorvi 6y ago
        It’s not JavaScript-on-desktop that’s the problem- this was a suspicion often cast at Gnome’s bad performance, until Canonical got involved, started fixing performance issues, and it was discovered that most of those issues stemmed from inefficient waits and stuff. The reason why Electron apps gets such a bad rap (and I fully agree, I hate them too) is because they carry basically an entire Chromium with them in addition to whatever you wanted to accomplish. HN is pretty split on Electron afaik because whilst it killed native apps for Windows and Mac, it has brought a lot of them to Linux.
        encom 6y ago
        Precisely. I would hate Electron less, if it shipped as a runtime like Java. Though I still think shoehorning web tech onto the desktop is stupid.
  - antihero 6y ago
    Ha ha look at me I am on Hacker News I don't like Electron because I am so smart ha ha.
  - 0xdeadb00f 6y ago
    Memes aside: thanks, you really did save me a click.
  - hiq 6y ago
    There's an open-source Android app which is published on F-Droid.
  - aorth 6y ago
    Oh! I had no idea it there was an Electron app for desktop. I've been using it on Android for years. I make a point to run it on wireless and mobile connections in every country I travel on. Also, I've made pull requests to https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists with new URLs that are blocked in certain countries when I find them.
- diggan 6y ago
  Short quick start for the lazy ones (also, no Electron so everyone rejoices): $ wget https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/releases/download/v3.0.8/ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ # sha512 => 4f215347022028cf5328446d15e59f2141d1a41e59110c0b85c67b711953d115 ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ tar xfv ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ # Move to $PATH $ mv ooniprobe ~/bin $ # Add crontab to run daily $ (crontab -l 2>/dev/null; echo "$(( ( RANDOM % 60 ) + 1 )) $(( ( RANDOM % 24 ) + 1 )) * * * ooniprobe run") | crontab - Mostly just stolen directly from the readme of the CLI probe: https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli#ooni-probe-cli https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli#ooni-probe-cli Also, make sure you're not on a network where someone will report you for visiting the "wrong" websites. It does requests to a lot of websites you don't want to be caught with in your history.
  - d0mine 6y ago
    Why can't it be just $ curl -L https://ooni.org/install | sh similar to https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-quick-install https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-quick-install
    - diggan 6y ago
      That'd be a great addition! Give it a try and implement it: https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/new/master https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/new/master Don't forget to think about all the different OSes and the way the handle scheduling!

by aorth 6y ago

ignoramous 6y ago

Link: https://ooni.org/ https://ooni.org/

encom 6y ago
Saved you a click: It's an Electron app.
- janandonly 6y ago
  Does it matter what platform it is build on?
  - encom 6y ago
    To me, yes. I avoid Electron like the plague. I know others feel the same way, so think of it as community service. Javascript-on-desktop arguments are probably already taking up gigabytes of space in the HN database, so I'll just say it's for all the usual reasons.
    - cbluth 6y ago
      youd be surprised how well text compresses
      - titanomachy 6y ago
        Especially text with a lot of repetition.
    - aquadrop 6y ago
      There's also a lot of people who don't feel the same way and I think you know it. So probably no need for "saved the click" part in your community service.
      - ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
        People not liking electron isn't an affront to the people who do. Let's not police people's speech.
    - jorvi 6y ago
      It’s not JavaScript-on-desktop that’s the problem- this was a suspicion often cast at Gnome’s bad performance, until Canonical got involved, started fixing performance issues, and it was discovered that most of those issues stemmed from inefficient waits and stuff. The reason why Electron apps gets such a bad rap (and I fully agree, I hate them too) is because they carry basically an entire Chromium with them in addition to whatever you wanted to accomplish. HN is pretty split on Electron afaik because whilst it killed native apps for Windows and Mac, it has brought a lot of them to Linux.
      - encom 6y ago
        Precisely. I would hate Electron less, if it shipped as a runtime like Java. Though I still think shoehorning web tech onto the desktop is stupid.
- antihero 6y ago
  Ha ha look at me I am on Hacker News I don't like Electron because I am so smart ha ha.
- 0xdeadb00f 6y ago
  Memes aside: thanks, you really did save me a click.
- hiq 6y ago
  There's an open-source Android app which is published on F-Droid.
- aorth 6y ago
  Oh! I had no idea it there was an Electron app for desktop. I've been using it on Android for years. I make a point to run it on wireless and mobile connections in every country I travel on. Also, I've made pull requests to https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists https://github.com/citizenlab/test-lists with new URLs that are blocked in certain countries when I find them.
diggan 6y ago
Short quick start for the lazy ones (also, no Electron so everyone rejoices): $ wget https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/releases/download/v3.0.8/ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ # sha512 => 4f215347022028cf5328446d15e59f2141d1a41e59110c0b85c67b711953d115 ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ tar xfv ooniprobe_v3.0.8_linux_amd64.tar.gz $ # Move to $PATH $ mv ooniprobe ~/bin $ # Add crontab to run daily $ (crontab -l 2>/dev/null; echo "$(( ( RANDOM % 60 ) + 1 )) $(( ( RANDOM % 24 ) + 1 )) * * * ooniprobe run") | crontab - Mostly just stolen directly from the readme of the CLI probe: https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli#ooni-probe-cli https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli#ooni-probe-cli Also, make sure you're not on a network where someone will report you for visiting the "wrong" websites. It does requests to a lot of websites you don't want to be caught with in your history.
- d0mine 6y ago
  Why can't it be just $ curl -L https://ooni.org/install | sh similar to https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-quick-install https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-quick-install
  - diggan 6y ago
    That'd be a great addition! Give it a try and implement it: https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/new/master https://github.com/ooni/probe-cli/new/master Don't forget to think about all the different OSes and the way the handle scheduling!