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> You're still not getting the point - which is you're not the customer Apple is trying to sell to Funny how they keep sending me marketing emails though. Thi
by _qulr 6y ago
> You're still not getting the point - which is you're not the customer Apple is trying to sell to
Funny how they keep sending me marketing emails though.
This is kind of a weird notion, that Apple doesn't want me as a customer, as I've spent more $ on Apple products in my life than the majority of people.
> This is your opinion.
Does this really need to be said? Of course it is! Why would I state someone else's opinion?
> Steve Jobs himself never wanted to sell "computers which only nerds could use".
This is a straw man argument. I already mentioned that I preferred Apple under Steve Jobs to Apple under Tim Cook. They're not the same. Jobs said, "the computer is the most remarkable tool that we’ve ever come up with. It’s the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." For Tim Cook, though, computers seem more like a bike lock for the mind.
> Super customizability that you want was never their product!
Again, I'm comparing Macs today to Macs literally only 10 years ago. Those products existed. It's historical revisionism to claim that current Apple is exactly the same as past Apple. It's not. Not at all.
The strangest thing about the argument "this is the way Apple has always been" is that the linked article of this HN post is talking about a new change that hasn't even shipped yet but exists in the Big Sur beta. It's a completely novel macOS behavior, not the way the Mac has ever behaved, so it's just bizarre to argue in this case "that's just the way Apple has always been". Apple is changing... for the worse IMO.
- Rury 6y ago>Funny how they keep sending me marketing emails though. >This is kind of a weird notion, that Apple doesn't want me as a customer, as I've spent more $ on Apple products in my life than the majority of people. Maybe that's because Apple is a company and you're 1 in a million? You bought their product so presumably maybe you're interested in what their products are? That you're one of their customers their trying to cater to (when you're actually not)? >Does this really need to be said? Of course it is! Why would I state someone else's opinion? Great we established it's an opinion, and not a fact! >This is a straw man argument. I already mentioned that I preferred Apple under Steve Jobs to Apple under Tim Cook. They're not the same. Jobs said, "the computer is the most remarkable tool that we’ve ever come up with. It’s the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." For Tim Cook, though, computers seem more like a bike lock for the mind. It's not a straw-man unless you want to have a separate argument over what Steve said / didn't say. >Again, I'm comparing Macs today to Macs literally only 10 years ago. Those products existed. It's historical revisionism to claim that current Apple is exactly the same as past Apple. It's not. Not at all. So what if they're different today? They've outlined what their products & terms are today just as they had in the past. How are they being a jerk when you can freely agree to or walk away from them?