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So since the market created functional drug addicts that’s ok and the government caused the problem by trying to stop the market from creating drug addiction?

nine_k 6y ago
If somebody tried to stop a train that was speeding along a wrong way by putting a wall on its way, it would end in a trainwreck. If you care about the passengers, that won't be a responsible thing to do, though technically the train would be stopped. So, a trainwreck is what we see :(
- rubyfan 6y ago
  Genuinely curious the alternative you would suggest. I think people can still access opioids legally, albeit much less easy than before. There are plenty of treatment options and the right answer isn’t to let drug addicts keep on ruining their own lives and the people around them. The train has to slow down and people have to get off the train. Granted, the government can do much more to help people get treatment and stop punishing users. But they damn sure do need to punish people who intentionally create drug addicts and that’s what this is about.
  - nine_k 6y ago
    Determine people who have opioids prescribed without a real need. Wean them off gradually, using known programs for quitting opioids. Work with them as with patients, for once they are addicts, they are the suffering party. Make the makers / prescribers which acted in bad faith to foot the bills. They made the damage, let them pay for repairing it.
    - rubyfan 6y ago
      I agree with everything you just said there. What parts do you not see happening? It seems like the proceeds of the DOJ settlement and the unwinding of Purdue start to make funds available for treatment and remediation of some of the issues. Also what of punitive action against the makers / prescribers would you expect? I think the article hits on the perceived justice lack of justice against the Sackler family.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
The government showed up to a grease fire and poured water on it. They're in the murky area where incompetence, negligence and malice meet.

nine_k 6y ago

If somebody tried to stop a train that was speeding along a wrong way by putting a wall on its way, it would end in a trainwreck. If you care about the passengers, that won't be a responsible thing to do, though technically the train would be stopped. So, a trainwreck is what we see :(

rubyfan 6y ago
Genuinely curious the alternative you would suggest. I think people can still access opioids legally, albeit much less easy than before. There are plenty of treatment options and the right answer isn’t to let drug addicts keep on ruining their own lives and the people around them. The train has to slow down and people have to get off the train. Granted, the government can do much more to help people get treatment and stop punishing users. But they damn sure do need to punish people who intentionally create drug addicts and that’s what this is about.
- nine_k 6y ago
  Determine people who have opioids prescribed without a real need. Wean them off gradually, using known programs for quitting opioids. Work with them as with patients, for once they are addicts, they are the suffering party. Make the makers / prescribers which acted in bad faith to foot the bills. They made the damage, let them pay for repairing it.
  - rubyfan 6y ago
    I agree with everything you just said there. What parts do you not see happening? It seems like the proceeds of the DOJ settlement and the unwinding of Purdue start to make funds available for treatment and remediation of some of the issues. Also what of punitive action against the makers / prescribers would you expect? I think the article hits on the perceived justice lack of justice against the Sackler family.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

The government showed up to a grease fire and poured water on it. They're in the murky area where incompetence, negligence and malice meet.