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I found Wikipedia's source on the matter. It is here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00033796200202722 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/

I found Wikipedia's source on the matter. It is here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00033796200202722 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/0003379620020272... "With the new meaning of science the need to designate a man of science became more pressing. Hitherto philosopher had served, but, as I have said, philosophy had narrowed in meaning to exclude natural philosophy, except in the minds and mouths of an older generation. An English man of science who called himself a philosopher now did so rather self-consciously, or hastened to qualify the name with the adjectives ' experimental ' or ' natural. ' The French word philosophe was immedi- ately brought to mind, and those designated by that word were not men of science, besides having been notorious atheists. The name scientist was first propounded in the Quarterly Review for March, 1834. The anonymous reviewer made the suggestion, too jocularly, however, to be taken entirely in earnest, in the course of a review of Mrs Somerville's book On the Connexion of the Physical Sciences. From Todhunter's biography 9 we learn that the reviewer was William Whewell, F.R.S." I cannot yet find a copy of the original review and am curious to find it. In any case I think you're a little weird for turning this into a soapbox for your views on a so-called culture war. Edit: Here it is: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_uWsJAAAAQAAJ/page/n61/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_uWsJAAAAQAAJ/page/n61/mod... I invite people to examine the primary source and come to their own conclusions.

disown 6y ago
> I found Wikipedia's source on the matter. And where exactly is whewell coining the term scientist for somerville? > In any case I think you're a little weird for turning this into a soapbox for your views on a so-called culture war. Did you even read the article? The article is rife with culture war rhetoric. > I invite people to examine the primary source and come to their own conclusions. Why don't you tell us what you found? Or are you saying historian/philosopher Laura Synder is lying/wrong? Or better yet, since you found "the source", why not point us to where whewell says, in somerville's honor, I coin the term scientist. Just because whewell wrote " An English man of science who called himself a philosopher now did so rather self-consciously" in a review of somerville's book doesn't mean that he coined it for her. After all, somerville isn't an english man of science is she?
- bitdizzy 6y ago
  I might have some time tonight to read the sources I found, and maybe even watch a TED talk even though I don't like TED talks after watching one on a topic I am well informed on. I think it's more fruitful to just read the source material directly. Can you point out to me what rhetoric in the submitted article is culture war rhetoric? And what do you mean by culture war? I live under a rock.
dang 6y ago
> I think you're a little weird I agree with you that the turn into flamewar was not good, but please don't add personal swipes. That only makes the thread worse—and of course is certain to perpetuate the flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- bitdizzy 6y ago
  Oh, my mistake. I'll do better next time.
  - globular-toast 6y ago
    Good boy.

disown 6y ago

> I found Wikipedia's source on the matter. And where exactly is whewell coining the term scientist for somerville? > In any case I think you're a little weird for turning this into a soapbox for your views on a so-called culture war. Did you even read the article? The article is rife with culture war rhetoric. > I invite people to examine the primary source and come to their own conclusions. Why don't you tell us what you found? Or are you saying historian/philosopher Laura Synder is lying/wrong? Or better yet, since you found "the source", why not point us to where whewell says, in somerville's honor, I coin the term scientist. Just because whewell wrote " An English man of science who called himself a philosopher now did so rather self-consciously" in a review of somerville's book doesn't mean that he coined it for her. After all, somerville isn't an english man of science is she?

bitdizzy 6y ago
I might have some time tonight to read the sources I found, and maybe even watch a TED talk even though I don't like TED talks after watching one on a topic I am well informed on. I think it's more fruitful to just read the source material directly. Can you point out to me what rhetoric in the submitted article is culture war rhetoric? And what do you mean by culture war? I live under a rock.

dang 6y ago

> I think you're a little weird I agree with you that the turn into flamewar was not good, but please don't add personal swipes. That only makes the thread worse—and of course is certain to perpetuate the flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

bitdizzy 6y ago
Oh, my mistake. I'll do better next time.
- globular-toast 6y ago
  Good boy.