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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the pre

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." peaceably: inclined or disposed to avoid strife or dissension; not argumentative or hostile: assemble: gather together in one place for a common purpose.

zepto 6y ago
Unclear what you’re saying here. Also, where do you get the definition of ‘peaceably’ from?
- bigwavedave 6y ago
  > Where do you get the definition of "peaceably" from? step 1: go to ddg step 2: type "define peaceably" step 3: hit "enter" step 4: read the first or second definition in the results step 5: ????? step 6: profit https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceably https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceably
  - zepto 6y ago
    I don’t think dictionary.com was available to the framers of the US constitution, and I’m guessing that the Supreme Court would draw on some other sources too. It’s interesting because the dictionary.com definition is very constrained. Avoiding dissention, and not being ‘argumentative’ seem like a stretch for describing most peaceful protests in the US.
    - stretchwithme 6y ago
      If you disagree with today's common understanding of what peaceable means, can you explain what you think it used to mean? Or are the implications of this definition the issue?
    - DanBC 6y ago
      If we're talking about the definition at the time, this is what OED says: > peaceably, adv. > 2. Without being subject to disturbance or opposition; in peace, quietly; tranquilly, peacefully. > 1375: Barbour Bruce v. 231 “It anoyis me.., That the clyffurd sa pesabilly Brukis and haldis the senȝory That suld be mine.” > 1471: Fortescue Wks. (1869) 527 “Kynge Knoght kepte and occupied the same lande.., and died peasibly seased tharof.” > 1593: Shakes. 2 Hen. VI, iii. iii. 25 “Disturbe him not, let him passe peaceably.” > 1727: De Foe Syst. Magic i. iii. (1840) 71 “We come to desire your leave, that we may go peaceably, and do the duty of our worship.” > 1824: Mackintosh Speech 15 June, “They saw the laws obeyed, justice administered,..and the revenue peaceably collected.” > peaceably, adv. > 1. With peaceful or friendly disposition, intention, or behaviour; amicably; so as to make for or maintain peace; without making strife, opposition, or disturbance; without quarrel or dispute. > c1330: R. Brunne Chron. Wace (Rolls) 7300 “Ȝyf swylk be comen, & peysibly þe hauene han nomen, In pes lat þem take þer rest.” > 1389: in Eng. Gilds (1870) 52 “Honestliche and peysiblyche to gon to þe forseyd chirch.” > c1449: Pecock Repr. iii. xiii. (Rolls) 363 “Regniden in successioun euermore oon emperour after an other pesibili to gidere.” > 1535: Coverdale Zach. viii. 16 “Execute iudgment truly and peaceably.” > 1599: Shakes. Much Ado v. ii. 72 “Thou and I are too wise to wooe peaceablie.” > 1599: Nashe Lenten Stuffe Wks. (Grosart) V. 228 “Not any where is..a warlike people peaceablier demeanourd.” > 1709: Addison Tatler No. 96 2 “Good Subjects, that pay their Taxes, and live peaceably in their Habitations.” > 1855: Macaulay Hist. Eng. xii. III. 190 “With assurances that the city should be peaceably surrendered.” >peaceably, adv. > 3. Comb. > 1692: Wicked Contriv. Steph. Blackhead in Select. fr. Harl. Misc. (1793) 512 “Some other good and peaceably-minded man.” > 1781: Cowper Conversation 90 “The clash of arguments and jar of words,..Divert the champions prodigal of breath, And put the peaceably-disposed to death.”
  - rusk 6y ago
    Clearly advice coming from somebody knowledgeable on constitutional issues here.
    - bigwavedave 6y ago
      He asked where the gp got the definition, I gave him the steps to find that exact definition. I don't have a horse in this race, I was just providing the source for someone who cared enough to ask but not enough to do even a cursory search.

zepto 6y ago

Unclear what you’re saying here. Also, where do you get the definition of ‘peaceably’ from?

bigwavedave 6y ago
> Where do you get the definition of "peaceably" from? step 1: go to ddg step 2: type "define peaceably" step 3: hit "enter" step 4: read the first or second definition in the results step 5: ????? step 6: profit https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceably https://www.dictionary.com/browse/peaceably
- zepto 6y ago
  I don’t think dictionary.com was available to the framers of the US constitution, and I’m guessing that the Supreme Court would draw on some other sources too. It’s interesting because the dictionary.com definition is very constrained. Avoiding dissention, and not being ‘argumentative’ seem like a stretch for describing most peaceful protests in the US.
  - stretchwithme 6y ago
    If you disagree with today's common understanding of what peaceable means, can you explain what you think it used to mean? Or are the implications of this definition the issue?
  - DanBC 6y ago
    If we're talking about the definition at the time, this is what OED says: > peaceably, adv. > 2. Without being subject to disturbance or opposition; in peace, quietly; tranquilly, peacefully. > 1375: Barbour Bruce v. 231 “It anoyis me.., That the clyffurd sa pesabilly Brukis and haldis the senȝory That suld be mine.” > 1471: Fortescue Wks. (1869) 527 “Kynge Knoght kepte and occupied the same lande.., and died peasibly seased tharof.” > 1593: Shakes. 2 Hen. VI, iii. iii. 25 “Disturbe him not, let him passe peaceably.” > 1727: De Foe Syst. Magic i. iii. (1840) 71 “We come to desire your leave, that we may go peaceably, and do the duty of our worship.” > 1824: Mackintosh Speech 15 June, “They saw the laws obeyed, justice administered,..and the revenue peaceably collected.” > peaceably, adv. > 1. With peaceful or friendly disposition, intention, or behaviour; amicably; so as to make for or maintain peace; without making strife, opposition, or disturbance; without quarrel or dispute. > c1330: R. Brunne Chron. Wace (Rolls) 7300 “Ȝyf swylk be comen, & peysibly þe hauene han nomen, In pes lat þem take þer rest.” > 1389: in Eng. Gilds (1870) 52 “Honestliche and peysiblyche to gon to þe forseyd chirch.” > c1449: Pecock Repr. iii. xiii. (Rolls) 363 “Regniden in successioun euermore oon emperour after an other pesibili to gidere.” > 1535: Coverdale Zach. viii. 16 “Execute iudgment truly and peaceably.” > 1599: Shakes. Much Ado v. ii. 72 “Thou and I are too wise to wooe peaceablie.” > 1599: Nashe Lenten Stuffe Wks. (Grosart) V. 228 “Not any where is..a warlike people peaceablier demeanourd.” > 1709: Addison Tatler No. 96 2 “Good Subjects, that pay their Taxes, and live peaceably in their Habitations.” > 1855: Macaulay Hist. Eng. xii. III. 190 “With assurances that the city should be peaceably surrendered.” >peaceably, adv. > 3. Comb. > 1692: Wicked Contriv. Steph. Blackhead in Select. fr. Harl. Misc. (1793) 512 “Some other good and peaceably-minded man.” > 1781: Cowper Conversation 90 “The clash of arguments and jar of words,..Divert the champions prodigal of breath, And put the peaceably-disposed to death.”
- rusk 6y ago
  Clearly advice coming from somebody knowledgeable on constitutional issues here.
  - bigwavedave 6y ago
    He asked where the gp got the definition, I gave him the steps to find that exact definition. I don't have a horse in this race, I was just providing the source for someone who cared enough to ask but not enough to do even a cursory search.