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So, genuine question-- why did Apple allow Mk II into the App Store if the first screen is a "you must make a purchase", which is exactly what they rejected Hey

So, genuine question-- why did Apple allow Mk II into the App Store if the first screen is a "you must make a purchase", which is exactly what they rejected Hey for? Is there a trial of some sort to satisfy the requirement that your app has to "work" on download (edit: or are Apple IAP paywalls ok and I am just misunderstanding the App Store rules, which is very easy to do...)?

frakkingcylons 6y ago
Apple’s issue with Hey was that you couldn’t pay for it via IAP.
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red_trumpet 6y ago
This article (https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/16/21293419/hey-apple-rejection-ios-app-store-dhh-gangsters-antitrust https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/16/21293419/hey-apple-reject...) suggests that Hey was rejected because it didn't use Apple's in-app purchases?
- andrewmunsell 6y ago
  Which could make sense, but Phil Schiller actually directly said > “You download the app and it doesn’t work, that’s not what we want on the store,” https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/18/interview-apples-schiller-says-position-on-hey-app-is-unchanged-and-no-rules-changes-are-imminent/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/18/interview-apples-schiller-... Now, he does follow with (quoting the TechCrunch article): > This, he says, is why Apple requires in-app purchases to offer the same purchasing functionality as they would have elsewhere. So, even though I, as a user, may consider the app to "not work" if it just asks me for a purchase immediately, Apple appears to consider an IAP prompt to be ok. Anyways, I am an Halide v1 user so I have access to Mk II and love the app, but I'm just curious about how Apple makes these decisions.
  - cpmsmith 6y ago
    He was certainly being disingenuous about that. Whether or not an app requires a payment to do anything is entirely orthogonal to its method of accepting the payment. Hey was rejected because they didn't use in-app purchases, no question about it.
- K0balt 6y ago
  IAP increases their valuation because it is categorized as recurrent revenue? Is this some kind of accounting hack? Or is it just that they get a bigger percentage of IAP? Scummy at any rate, Apple.
xcrjm 6y ago
The problem with Hey is that they were directing you to their website, circumventing apple's payment mechanisms. If you're using their stuff and giving them their cut you're gucci.

frakkingcylons 6y ago

Apple’s issue with Hey was that you couldn’t pay for it via IAP.

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red_trumpet 6y ago

This article (https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/16/21293419/hey-apple-rejection-ios-app-store-dhh-gangsters-antitrust https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/16/21293419/hey-apple-reject...) suggests that Hey was rejected because it didn't use Apple's in-app purchases?

andrewmunsell 6y ago
Which could make sense, but Phil Schiller actually directly said > “You download the app and it doesn’t work, that’s not what we want on the store,” https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/18/interview-apples-schiller-says-position-on-hey-app-is-unchanged-and-no-rules-changes-are-imminent/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/18/interview-apples-schiller-... Now, he does follow with (quoting the TechCrunch article): > This, he says, is why Apple requires in-app purchases to offer the same purchasing functionality as they would have elsewhere. So, even though I, as a user, may consider the app to "not work" if it just asks me for a purchase immediately, Apple appears to consider an IAP prompt to be ok. Anyways, I am an Halide v1 user so I have access to Mk II and love the app, but I'm just curious about how Apple makes these decisions.
- cpmsmith 6y ago
  He was certainly being disingenuous about that. Whether or not an app requires a payment to do anything is entirely orthogonal to its method of accepting the payment. Hey was rejected because they didn't use in-app purchases, no question about it.
K0balt 6y ago
IAP increases their valuation because it is categorized as recurrent revenue? Is this some kind of accounting hack? Or is it just that they get a bigger percentage of IAP? Scummy at any rate, Apple.

xcrjm 6y ago

The problem with Hey is that they were directing you to their website, circumventing apple's payment mechanisms. If you're using their stuff and giving them their cut you're gucci.