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Is that what police are doing all day? Walking around and hitting people with batons and shooting minorities and drinking blood?

by mjfl 6y ago

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craftinator 6y ago
Other than that last one... Yeah.
- mjfl 6y ago
  I sincerely wish we could deliver you to a society without police.
hobs 6y ago
Be as hyperbolic as you like, at the end of the day you are the one defending cops we have video evidence of beating people with sticks.
- mjfl 6y ago
  I sincerely wish we could deliver you to a society without police.
  - hobs 6y ago
    There's a third option - effective policing.
  - Falling3 6y ago
    I sincerely wish we could have good faith discussions without false dichotomies.
- RobRivera 6y ago
  You did not answer his/her question and proceed to use petty argumentive/debate tactics to villify rather than expand dialogue. You are not discussing in good faith
  - hobs 6y ago
    The comment I respond to discusses drinking blood, I think you might find the good faith comment misplaced.
    - RobRivera 6y ago
      No sale hobs. He posed a question asking if the cop is spending all day beating people and drinking blood. I'm convinced you aren't engaging in good faith discussion. Moving on with my life.
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  The parent's rather obvious point is that some police officers are bad, but police in general aren't behaving this way. If you disagree, then fine, but at least disagree with the parent and not some straw man of your own making.
  - hobs 6y ago
    To the comment of "Yes, the person who brings the baton down on your head is an oppressor." - bringing up 'well other police are not bad' is just itself a weird strawman.
    - throwaway894345 6y ago
      It's not a straw man so much as a clarification, because the original assertion is ambiguous about whether we're talking literally about a single person or if "person bringing the baton down on your head" is a metaphor for police in general (especially given the surrounding context of talking about the police in a general, plural sense, and the fact that no one disputes that no one disputes that individual bad police officers should be held responsible).
sam_lowry_ 6y ago
Pretty much yes. Locals used to reply to bemused foreigners with "It's Belarus, baby" when questioned on police brutality and state-sanctioned killings.
vladTheInhaler 6y ago
Police in Belarus are literally kidnapping and torturing protestors [1] so yes, that's pretty much exactly right. [1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/belarus-torture-protesters-in-prison-rights-experts/12671998 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/belarus-torture-prote...
anigbrowl 6y ago
Straw man arguments are not conducive to discussion and insult the people they are directed towards.
colinmhayes 6y ago
Do you think murderers are killing people all day? No, they only do it sometimes, that doesn't make it ok.

Is that what police are doing all day? Walking around and hitting people with batons and shooting minorities and drinking blood?

by mjfl 6y ago

Is that what police are doing all day? Walking around and hitting people with batons and shooting minorities and drinking blood?

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craftinator 6y ago

Other than that last one... Yeah.

mjfl 6y ago
I sincerely wish we could deliver you to a society without police.

hobs 6y ago

Be as hyperbolic as you like, at the end of the day you are the one defending cops we have video evidence of beating people with sticks.

mjfl 6y ago
I sincerely wish we could deliver you to a society without police.
- hobs 6y ago
  There's a third option - effective policing.
- Falling3 6y ago
  I sincerely wish we could have good faith discussions without false dichotomies.
RobRivera 6y ago
You did not answer his/her question and proceed to use petty argumentive/debate tactics to villify rather than expand dialogue. You are not discussing in good faith
- hobs 6y ago
  The comment I respond to discusses drinking blood, I think you might find the good faith comment misplaced.
  - RobRivera 6y ago
    No sale hobs. He posed a question asking if the cop is spending all day beating people and drinking blood. I'm convinced you aren't engaging in good faith discussion. Moving on with my life.
throwaway894345 6y ago
The parent's rather obvious point is that some police officers are bad, but police in general aren't behaving this way. If you disagree, then fine, but at least disagree with the parent and not some straw man of your own making.
- hobs 6y ago
  To the comment of "Yes, the person who brings the baton down on your head is an oppressor." - bringing up 'well other police are not bad' is just itself a weird strawman.
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    It's not a straw man so much as a clarification, because the original assertion is ambiguous about whether we're talking literally about a single person or if "person bringing the baton down on your head" is a metaphor for police in general (especially given the surrounding context of talking about the police in a general, plural sense, and the fact that no one disputes that no one disputes that individual bad police officers should be held responsible).

sam_lowry_ 6y ago

Pretty much yes. Locals used to reply to bemused foreigners with "It's Belarus, baby" when questioned on police brutality and state-sanctioned killings.

vladTheInhaler 6y ago

Police in Belarus are literally kidnapping and torturing protestors [1] so yes, that's pretty much exactly right. [1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/belarus-torture-protesters-in-prison-rights-experts/12671998 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/belarus-torture-prote...

anigbrowl 6y ago

Straw man arguments are not conducive to discussion and insult the people they are directed towards.

colinmhayes 6y ago

Do you think murderers are killing people all day? No, they only do it sometimes, that doesn't make it ok.