> Strawman 2: Yes, there aren't any technologies which care more about privacy and freedom, while still valuing good usability, because Element doesn't exist.

> Strawman 2: Yes, there aren't any technologies which care more about privacy and freedom, while still valuing good usability, because Element doesn't exist. From a chat-room creation dialog in Element: > Enable end-to-end encryption > You can’t disable this later. Bridges & most bots won’t work yet. That's a great option for backwards compatibility-- in fact I may end up trying it out for a public chat group at some point. But it's difficult to take seriously an argument that Element cares more about privacy than Signal when they have that option for the user. Well, it's hard to take seriously anything under a GP that yelled "honeypot!" at one of the applications under discussion.