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I'm very suspicious of the advocating of any sorts of drugs, hallucinogens included. Each to their own, but for myself, these are surely not something to be ta

I'm very suspicious of the advocating of any sorts of drugs, hallucinogens included. Each to their own, but for myself, these are surely not something to be taking like a coffee or tea. And even then I don't think coffee, tea or processed sugar is something we should take regularly either! But I'm a bit hardcore. Pretty much the only circumstance that I think it is ok to take hallucinogens is when you believe you have adopted a negative approach in viewing reality, when you've gone down a cul de sac of sorts. If this is a day in day out experience perhaps a 'pattern interupt' is a good thing. Hallucinogens can be a way appraise the world and enjoy its many manifest glories - daily I look at trees or clouds and am in admiration of the wonder of nature in this experience. So, in the right circumstances, if LSD et al help you break out and get closer to one's more natural, feral state, then great :)

grawprog 6y ago
>take hallucinogens is when you believe you have adopted a negative approach in viewing reality, when you've gone down a cul de sac of sorts. If this is a day in day out experience perhaps a 'pattern interupt' is a good thing. I don't really agree with the rest of your post, but this i do think is probably the best usage of hallucinogens as far as therapy goes. I don't really think microdosing is the way to go about it. In my experience, that 'big reset' to harmful thoughts and patterns of actions is the primary benefit to theraputic hallucinogen use. I liken it to when you've got like 50 apps open on a desktop, a few with memory leaks, CPU's running hard all cores, memory usage is at 100%, swap's totally used. So you reset, everything shuts down and restarts, all that's running are the system init processes and memory's cleared and ready to go. I don't really feel like microdosing is the best way to go about this and i'm not even sure if LSD is a very good drug for that. I've never really had any introspective experiences with LSD. They've just been kind of shallow and fun. Psilocybin on the hand gave me far more of a theraputic trip with one high dose. I tried the microdosing thing. It just made feel like I was stoned all the time.
- zelon88 6y ago
  I've never heard of anyone describe an acid trip as "shallow" before. For most people it is the most profound experience of their lives.
  - grawprog 6y ago
    Acid was fun, don't get me wrong. But it felt shallow. I don't know how else to describe it. With mushrooms and other natural hallucinogens, i've felt more of a connection with things and had more of an introspective time. Especially at high doses. With acid, it was always just fun. There wasn't really much introspection about it. It just made everything feel profound and fun. Whereas, especially mushrooms, but also a few other plant based substances, the trips always led to more self reflection and more positive changes post trip. I like acid more. I wish i could get some acid as nice as i had years back now, but when i want to deal with real life issues or emotional problems, mushrooms are where i turn to. Acid is more for those times when i just wanna take a vacation for a few hours and go on a magical journey.
asdfman123 6y ago
> when you believe you have adopted a negative approach in viewing reality, when you've gone down a cul de sac of sorts. Anxiety and depression affects up to 20% of the population every year, and if I had to guess, I might speculate that number is higher for developers. (Many of us turn to computers to avoid people, which means less social support.)
lubesGordi 6y ago
Pattern interrupt is generally a good thing for everyone. Patterns typically are not intentional; not borne from mindful action. The idea with microdosing is you get 'awake'/mindful without getting too blissful and distracted by all the other mind-manifesting phenomena you get when the dose is higher.
MichaelMoser123 6y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcYeQxSFa8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcYeQxSFa8Y Terry Bush is asking: 'do you know what you're doing? - you should know just what you do, watch out, you might be dying!'

grawprog 6y ago

>take hallucinogens is when you believe you have adopted a negative approach in viewing reality, when you've gone down a cul de sac of sorts. If this is a day in day out experience perhaps a 'pattern interupt' is a good thing. I don't really agree with the rest of your post, but this i do think is probably the best usage of hallucinogens as far as therapy goes. I don't really think microdosing is the way to go about it. In my experience, that 'big reset' to harmful thoughts and patterns of actions is the primary benefit to theraputic hallucinogen use. I liken it to when you've got like 50 apps open on a desktop, a few with memory leaks, CPU's running hard all cores, memory usage is at 100%, swap's totally used. So you reset, everything shuts down and restarts, all that's running are the system init processes and memory's cleared and ready to go. I don't really feel like microdosing is the best way to go about this and i'm not even sure if LSD is a very good drug for that. I've never really had any introspective experiences with LSD. They've just been kind of shallow and fun. Psilocybin on the hand gave me far more of a theraputic trip with one high dose. I tried the microdosing thing. It just made feel like I was stoned all the time.

zelon88 6y ago
I've never heard of anyone describe an acid trip as "shallow" before. For most people it is the most profound experience of their lives.
- grawprog 6y ago
  Acid was fun, don't get me wrong. But it felt shallow. I don't know how else to describe it. With mushrooms and other natural hallucinogens, i've felt more of a connection with things and had more of an introspective time. Especially at high doses. With acid, it was always just fun. There wasn't really much introspection about it. It just made everything feel profound and fun. Whereas, especially mushrooms, but also a few other plant based substances, the trips always led to more self reflection and more positive changes post trip. I like acid more. I wish i could get some acid as nice as i had years back now, but when i want to deal with real life issues or emotional problems, mushrooms are where i turn to. Acid is more for those times when i just wanna take a vacation for a few hours and go on a magical journey.

asdfman123 6y ago

> when you believe you have adopted a negative approach in viewing reality, when you've gone down a cul de sac of sorts. Anxiety and depression affects up to 20% of the population every year, and if I had to guess, I might speculate that number is higher for developers. (Many of us turn to computers to avoid people, which means less social support.)

lubesGordi 6y ago

Pattern interrupt is generally a good thing for everyone. Patterns typically are not intentional; not borne from mindful action. The idea with microdosing is you get 'awake'/mindful without getting too blissful and distracted by all the other mind-manifesting phenomena you get when the dose is higher.

MichaelMoser123 6y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcYeQxSFa8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcYeQxSFa8Y Terry Bush is asking: 'do you know what you're doing? - you should know just what you do, watch out, you might be dying!'