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Is 80-100k salary real? there's an app for that, a weekend project
- lhnn 15y agoWhy not make a website that could take my zip, or use smartphone location services? you've reduced your potential user count, espectially since it's a free app.
- rjyo 15y agoCool! we'll make it happen. A website is much more agile than the app. Thanks a lot!
- leif 15y agoThis seems like an instance of putting the solution before the problem. I imagine you went in knowing you wanted to write an app and came up with one, not that you wanted to help people find out salaries, and then decided the app was the way to go. You are not alone.
- rjyo 15y agoI got the idea when reading this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2453174 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2453174
- danilocampos 15y agoIt's a weekend project and he hasn't charged anyone for it, cut some slack here. On my weekend projects, the thinking is usually "What's the most fun I can have building something?" and then I go build it. We don't need to apply deep level strategy to everything, sometimes it's enough to just build fun things. If it ends up being useful, damn, what a great weekend. Either way, your skills and experience by Sunday have grown relative to Friday. Any benefit derived by others is just a bonus. OP, keep on jammin' on the weekends doing whatever makes you happiest. :D
- quinndupont 15y agoI wish I had those kind of skills to bust out something like this in a weekend.
- danilocampos 15y agoThe beauty of weekend projects is that if you do enough of them that are fun for you (and not freighted with intense strategy) one day, you will have those skills. I started off with a kinda boring job, mediocre graphics skills and the tiniest grasp of C syntax. Now I get paid to design and build iPhone apps. It's awesome. But it all started with little side projects to sharpen me up. Start practicing, you can do it if you commit.
- leif 15y agoI don't mean to criticize, what I said was "you are not alone."
- estel 15y agoI really don't understand why this is an app. Out of interest, what process led you to developing it as one?
- rjyo 15y agoActually I tried to answer this: "If average salaries are 80-100k why does everyone keep getting 40-60k offers?" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2453174 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2453174 We used many cutting-edge things like node.js, expressjs, mongodb, mongoose, pjax and a lot more in this project. We learned how to put these things together and how to move it to a production box. Even if no one use it, we learned a lot. And if people really love it, another great PLUS!!
- haentz 15y agoSo, it's actually 'just' a web app, packaged into a native iPhone app? Seriously, what's the thought process behind this? Do you plan to make this a paid app?
- iamjustlooking 15y agoI think he was asking why it is a phone app and not a more appropriate website format.
- rjyo 15y agoOops! AppStore can be a good traction for getting people to use it, which is a chicken/egg problem for this app. I'll try to make it work on the web ASAP. Thanks!
- ry0ohki 15y agoThat is an developer answer if I've ever heard one! ;)
- jzila 15y agoWhat does this provide that glassdoor.com doesn't? *edit: other than the app-ness, of course.
- tmcw 15y agoFocus on a good user story & a nice design, I'd assume?
- ares2012 15y agoI think this is brilliant. If you can get enough people typing in their current salary you could have a significantly better data source for affluency than the US census (which is what everyone uses now). That database (completely anonymized of course) that ties location to affluency would be worth a ton to advertisers and marketers. Well done. Good luck!
- djjose 15y agoI venture to say that even anonymously, people would exaggerate their salaries. Perhaps this could be curved downwards though to get a good estimate.
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- S_A_P 15y agoIn Houston TX, 80-100k for a job is pretty much a given if you can write code. .NET, Java and even PHP jobs easily pay that here, >5yrs experience can/will get you above that range.(sometimes by a large margin) Yes, this is not an entry level salary, but its easily attainable in 5 years if you are someone that is attracted to a site like this. From the limited experience I have seen, its not uncommon anywhere in Texas or a large part of the US. I have seen some exceptions in Oregon(Portland had a bunch of 65-75k "senior" developer jobs when I looked into that city and North Carolina seems to have a strangely low market average) I know that not everyone here is a developer or even technical but seems that those that aren't are more entrepreneurial which could lead to far higher pay when you get it right.
- lscharen 15y agoEverything is bigger in Texas.
- ctoneal 15y agoMaybe I'm doing it wrong, but I've been looking in Houston for at least a year now, and I'm finding virtually nothing here, let alone anything at that sort of range. In my (admittedly limited) experience, the development jobs I've seen around are only offering 40-60k. I'd be interested in knowing where these cushy jobs are hiding.
- mileszs 15y agoWow. You should move to Indianapolis. There are companies here dying to give some qualified programmer money. A salary of 80-100k is being offered to experienced Java, .NET -- even Ruby/Rails developers. (I just came from a Rails job at that level.) On top of that, it's a cheap place to live, and is building an interesting little community of tech/startup-minded people.
- S_A_P 15y agoI dont know what your experience is but if you were coming in at a jr level that seems a bit low. 50-75k seems to be the range for 0-3 yrs of experience. If you are able to get in somewhere and work with the senior guys and find a good group of them who are willing to share knowledge with you it is very easy to get to mid/senior level with some effort.
- r00 15y agoThere's a website for that.. vfxwages.com. Starting with VFX /anim/gaming industries, heading into general tech industries hopefully this year. Since 2009. http://www.ereleases.com/pr/industry-wages-arms-creative-professionals-salary-knowledge-17815 http://www.ereleases.com/pr/industry-wages-arms-creative-pro...
- enko 15y agoThe example shown on the web page is nonsensical. Max 260k, min 2k? Obviously 2k ($0.95/hr) is bogus. One wonders if it is bringing down averages. Or if not can someone please introduce me to these programmers working for < $1/hr? My startup could really use them : )
- rjyo 15y agoStill using the screenshot with test data on an iPhone Simulator... Shame on me :-p
- AlexC04 15y agoThere was another post earlier today with all of the US H1-B salary data for the last 10 years. http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseH1B.aspx http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseH1B.aspx I downloaded it all the second I saw it with the thoughts that I'd just be able to "find something to do with it somehow" Seems you're alot further along the path of being able to do something with it. It's literally* a bajillion salary data points that are probably very reliable because the companies are likely taxed on the amount they've entered in that list (or something). Roll it in! (maybe with a "Source" flag) *not really literally.
- rjyo 15y agoThis is huge! We'll have it in! Thank you!
- Avenger42 15y agoThe new screenshot makes less sense to me - the max is 6,400k, but the average is 8,200k?
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- eventhough 15y agoUnrelated, but did the developer of this application go to Lynbrook High School? I recognize the map location on the home page. That would be cool.
- patorjk 15y agoWhere does the data come from? edit: It appears one source is from the app users.
- jsavimbi 15y agoAside from confining it to zip code and metro area vs. address, I think there more data points that need to be added in order to get a more accurate picture of the job market. Just a suggestion, but: 1. Industry 2. Specific job title/function 3. Education level 3a. College(s) attended 4. Years experience 5. # of jobs held a different employers within the same industry 6. As a bonus, what type of discipline within the job function: enterprise, startup, consulting, freelance 7. Benefit level to include bonuses, healthcare, equipment/education reimbursement, travel then sell job ads based on what the user inputs, because after all, isn't that we're looking for? Those admob things do nothing for me.
- r00 15y agoThere's one for the creative fields already.. vfxwages.com. I posted a news release about them below. I think they still need some work to do, but it's getting more relevant.
- mendicant 15y agoI agree. Especially concerning industry. You can have all things equal (Title, Education, experience, etc) and one industry will still pay way more than another. Besides, does it really make sense to be downtown and have your salary being compared to the guy working at the McDonalds in the food court of your building? I like the idea, and with a few tweaks it could really be a big thing. There are some companies who pay a very large sum to see how they compare against others in terms of pay/benefits/long term incentives.
- rjyo 15y agoHas anyone found the easter egg?
- heri0n 15y agoCan you give us a clue? :P Anyway pretty good UI, a few suggestions: Perhaps you could add a graph of the normal distribution and where you lie on it. Choosing the location of your workplace is a little confusing at first, it might be more intuitive to make it similar to the Facebook checkin sections, show a list of places nearby. Just curious if you are making any ad revenue yet? :P
- practicalUser 15y agoglassdoor is already out there..
- phlux 15y agoYou know what I am waiting for, and maybe with the Linkedin API this could be easily accomplished with your app: I install the app, and I tell you my linkedin profile, zip code and current salary. I want to know people in my area with similar skills in their linkedin are paid XXX, how many there are and the high-low range. I would like to see comparison of what skills I lack to those who make more money than me.
- nitrogen 15y agoI would like to see comparison of what skills I lack to those who make more money than me. That would be fantastic. How cool would it be to have an app/site that tells you where you are, and where to go for the best return? "If you add an open source Ruby project to your profile you may gain $10k/yr on your next job."
- mamatta 15y agoso you can actually do it online by inputting coordinates: http://geolary.com/salaries/139.793644,35.864778 http://geolary.com/salaries/139.793644,35.864778
- graywh 15y agoIn longitude,latitude order.
- hikarudo 15y agoI haven't tried the app (I don't own an iPhone), but I suggest replacing average by median. Very high salaries can significantly bring the average up, whereas the median is more robust to outliers.
- drdaeman 15y ago(Same for not owning the iPhone and not trying the app — hope the website version's coming) A histogram (on some separate screen/page) would be nice too.
- ecaron 15y agoIt would be interesting if this could aggregate in the data from Salary.com, PayScale.com and Glassdoor.com, to kind of generate the mean/range/etc. Also, integration with the other-recent HN salary tool - http://salaryshare.me/ http://salaryshare.me/ - would really be a nice addition and the complementary services could feed users to each other. Insert obligatory Android app request
- rjyo 15y agoAt least the web side can handle Android now. Thanks!
- lian 15y agoI will never use an application that makes me tell it my salary on the first page.
- yzhengyu 15y agoWell, considering the fact they need more data points to make it more accurate and meaningful... Now I can understand why employers want to keep them a secret, I have never understood why individual employees want to keep their salaries a secret.
- colonelxc 15y agoI think that using the median instead of mean might be more meaningful. If you have someone put in a really high salary, the mean will be skewed to a point potentially above most of the population. Given a mostly normal distribution with only a few extreme outliers, the median will be a more realistic number.
- rjyo 15y agoThanks for the advice! We are using median now, although it shows avg in the app.
- ryanpetrich 15y agoThis app uses a number of private (or at the very least, semi-private) APIs. I'm surprised Apple approved it.
- rjyo 15y agoerrr. for example? Pretty sure we didn't used any ourselves. And for the libs, we actually used: ShareKit/asi-http-request/Admob/regexkitlite/JSONKit All great open-source projects used by tons of apps.
- akulbe 15y agoI think it's an excellent idea. However, the app never worked for me. I've got an iPhone 4 with the latest firmware, and just after opening all it does is crash.