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What are you talking about? Put CentOS or Ubuntu LTS on your box and forget about it for the next ten years. The only updates you'll get are security and bug fi

What are you talking about? Put CentOS or Ubuntu LTS on your box and forget about it for the next ten years. The only updates you'll get are security and bug fixes, nothing fundamental will change. The next LTS release you'll install in 2030 will have substantial differences, but FreeBSD changes quite a bit too in such a large time span.

fullstop 6y ago
A few things.. 1. Ubuntu LTS releases are supported for five years -- Centos is for ten years. 2. FreeBSD updates are typically easy to perform, and the new system is not that different from the previous one. Things are where they used to be and you configure it the same way as you have for years. With Centos, there was a migration from yum -> dnf. With both Ubuntu and Centos the init system has changed from sysv -> upstart -> systemd. The default network configuration on Ubuntu has been replaced with netplan. I guess what I'm getting at is that there is significantly more churn in Linux distributions and vastly less churn in FreeBSD. This could also be seen as a lack of progress, but I don't think that OP sees it that way.
toast0 6y ago
The user facing surface of FreeeBSD from twenty years ago is still pretty similar to the surface today. ifconfig still configures network interfaces (including wireless) the init system is still the same you still have the same three firewalls to choose from the audio system is still the same The internals are quite a bit different (and more capable), and I don't think zfs was in FreeBSD back then, but UFS2 still works. If you want to experience twenty year old FreeBSD, to compare with modern FreeBSD, Apple has lovingly preserved it as the userland unix interface in MacOs, they've even got a circa 2000 tcp stack.
- crest 6y ago
  Thanks for the nice rant.

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What are you talking about? Put CentOS or Ubuntu LTS on your box and forget about it for the next ten years. The only updates you'll get are security and bug fi

by scaladev 6y ago

fullstop 6y ago
A few things.. 1. Ubuntu LTS releases are supported for five years -- Centos is for ten years. 2. FreeBSD updates are typically easy to perform, and the new system is not that different from the previous one. Things are where they used to be and you configure it the same way as you have for years. With Centos, there was a migration from yum -> dnf. With both Ubuntu and Centos the init system has changed from sysv -> upstart -> systemd. The default network configuration on Ubuntu has been replaced with netplan. I guess what I'm getting at is that there is significantly more churn in Linux distributions and vastly less churn in FreeBSD. This could also be seen as a lack of progress, but I don't think that OP sees it that way.
toast0 6y ago
The user facing surface of FreeeBSD from twenty years ago is still pretty similar to the surface today. ifconfig still configures network interfaces (including wireless) the init system is still the same you still have the same three firewalls to choose from the audio system is still the same The internals are quite a bit different (and more capable), and I don't think zfs was in FreeBSD back then, but UFS2 still works. If you want to experience twenty year old FreeBSD, to compare with modern FreeBSD, Apple has lovingly preserved it as the userland unix interface in MacOs, they've even got a circa 2000 tcp stack.
- crest 6y ago
  Thanks for the nice rant.