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That means, for many victims, that that's it, game over, you go out of business. A lot of ransom money is paid because often as not it is very hard and expensiv

That means, for many victims, that that's it, game over, you go out of business. A lot of ransom money is paid because often as not it is very hard and expensive to ensure not only that a business can recover from such an attack, but also on a timeframe and at a cost that doesn't by itself break it, so a great many can't unless it gets detected and stopped very early. Lots of businesses will pay regardless of a ban and eat the fine, or try to pay clandestinely, diverting resources law enforcement should be using to catch the perpetrators. Not sure this is worth a bit more pressure to catch criminals that probably won't get caught anyway.

appleflaxen 6y ago
but the long game is that there will be no victims, because there is no money in it.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  There is always going to be money in it as long as there is ever anything worth ransoming. What's new here is a new type of criminalization and an incentive to hide your actions from the government. And if the ransomer is asking $5,000 and the government will fine you $50,000, then you have a good incentive to gamble on never getting caught, and that's already a game corporations play (very successfully) with taxes.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Corporations are not hiding their money from taxes out of sight. They are hiding it in plain site - the exceptions in the tax laws. Hiding out of site is basically impossible for any large company: somebody internally is sure to get disgruntled at some time and tell the police (often for a significant reward).
  - Pick-A-Hill2019 6y ago
    The Corporates just add a shield layer of employing an 'external consultant' who offers to 'find a way of fixing it'. In fact, there is already a term for it. A quick search of the term 'Ransomware Negotiator' provides citations.
  - GoblinSlayer 6y ago
    Then all they need is to lobby for legalization of anonymous payments.
- jonstewart 6y ago
  In the long run, we’re all dead.
- Uberphallus 6y ago
  That's like expecting to have no drug addicts because you banned drugs.

appleflaxen 6y ago

but the long game is that there will be no victims, because there is no money in it.

hombre_fatal 6y ago
There is always going to be money in it as long as there is ever anything worth ransoming. What's new here is a new type of criminalization and an incentive to hide your actions from the government. And if the ransomer is asking $5,000 and the government will fine you $50,000, then you have a good incentive to gamble on never getting caught, and that's already a game corporations play (very successfully) with taxes.
- bluGill 6y ago
  Corporations are not hiding their money from taxes out of sight. They are hiding it in plain site - the exceptions in the tax laws. Hiding out of site is basically impossible for any large company: somebody internally is sure to get disgruntled at some time and tell the police (often for a significant reward).
- Pick-A-Hill2019 6y ago
  The Corporates just add a shield layer of employing an 'external consultant' who offers to 'find a way of fixing it'. In fact, there is already a term for it. A quick search of the term 'Ransomware Negotiator' provides citations.
- GoblinSlayer 6y ago
  Then all they need is to lobby for legalization of anonymous payments.
jonstewart 6y ago
In the long run, we’re all dead.
Uberphallus 6y ago
That's like expecting to have no drug addicts because you banned drugs.