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F-droid is amazing for android. It's probably the one nice thing about the platform. lots of people have probably given up on android now though and there are

by swiley 6y ago

F-droid is amazing for android. It's probably the one nice thing about the platform. lots of people have probably given up on android now though and there are multiple phones with support for a decent Linux distribution at this point.

jmnicolas 6y ago
> support for a decent Linux distribution Last time I checked (admittedly a few months ago) the Librem 5 was the most promising Linux phone but had trouble reliably making calls! Is there a fluid and reliable (hardware and software) Linux phone? At work we're deploying some stock Android Samsung Xcover4s and despite having good enough hardware on paper they feel really sluggish when using them (before any apps installed, fully updated, most bloatware removed with ADB). So if a 250€ Samsung with stock Android doesn't manage to be pleasant to use, I have doubts that a Linux phone will succeed but I would be happy to be wrong. I'm trying to degoogle my e-life, I'm planning to install GrapheneOS on my Pixel 4 XL but if there's a Linux phone that matches the user experience I may consider switching to that instead.
- corrund 6y ago
  You are making typical mistake: Linux is joy to develop. Well developed Linux distribution is joy to use for users, but boring for developers. Currently, if you are young developer, you can have lot of joy with Linux on phone.
Mediterraneo10 6y ago
Those multiple phones with support for a decent Linux distribution, don't run certain important apps. OSMAnd beats any of the rudimentary map offerings on the Librem or the Pinephone, for instance. Consequently, in the short term Linux phone users are interested in running Android apps through emulation (Anbox, or Jolla's Android layer), and when you do that, you usually get the apps you need through F-Droid.
- gnufx 6y ago
  > OSMAnd beats any of the rudimentary map offerings on the Librem or the Pinephone Not to knock OSMAnd, but Ubports' Pure Maps isn't bad, is it?
  - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
    > Ubports' Pure Maps isn't bad, is it? Maybe some people find it sufficient for basic navigation, but it is missing all those detailed features that you can toggle on OSMAnd to clearly show OpenStreetMap tagging (road surfaces, street lighting, etc.)

by swiley 6y ago

jmnicolas 6y ago

> support for a decent Linux distribution Last time I checked (admittedly a few months ago) the Librem 5 was the most promising Linux phone but had trouble reliably making calls! Is there a fluid and reliable (hardware and software) Linux phone? At work we're deploying some stock Android Samsung Xcover4s and despite having good enough hardware on paper they feel really sluggish when using them (before any apps installed, fully updated, most bloatware removed with ADB). So if a 250€ Samsung with stock Android doesn't manage to be pleasant to use, I have doubts that a Linux phone will succeed but I would be happy to be wrong. I'm trying to degoogle my e-life, I'm planning to install GrapheneOS on my Pixel 4 XL but if there's a Linux phone that matches the user experience I may consider switching to that instead.

corrund 6y ago
You are making typical mistake: Linux is joy to develop. Well developed Linux distribution is joy to use for users, but boring for developers. Currently, if you are young developer, you can have lot of joy with Linux on phone.

Mediterraneo10 6y ago

Those multiple phones with support for a decent Linux distribution, don't run certain important apps. OSMAnd beats any of the rudimentary map offerings on the Librem or the Pinephone, for instance. Consequently, in the short term Linux phone users are interested in running Android apps through emulation (Anbox, or Jolla's Android layer), and when you do that, you usually get the apps you need through F-Droid.

gnufx 6y ago
> OSMAnd beats any of the rudimentary map offerings on the Librem or the Pinephone Not to knock OSMAnd, but Ubports' Pure Maps isn't bad, is it?
- Mediterraneo10 6y ago
  > Ubports' Pure Maps isn't bad, is it? Maybe some people find it sufficient for basic navigation, but it is missing all those detailed features that you can toggle on OSMAnd to clearly show OpenStreetMap tagging (road surfaces, street lighting, etc.)