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> you are saying it is a good thing that certain information is unavailable to you, and that you trust google, the government to do the job for you. That's not

by dewey 6y ago

> you are saying it is a good thing that certain information is unavailable to you, and that you trust google, the government to do the job for you. That's not what I'm saying. Removing the information from YouTube isn't removing the information from the internet. They are just making use of their right to decide what they give space to on their platform. I can still go to a specific conspiracy theory website and read about it there if I'm feeling like it. The "government" has nothing to do with that as we are talking about a company applying their own policies to their website not a government mandated take down of content.

feralimal 6y ago
But it does. Its public knowledge that google was partially funded by inqtel. The government subsidises corporations. I think you and I must have different ideas on what governance is. You probably think education, corporations, government and media are separate. I don't. I think they are part of the same governance apparatus. Hence you have a search company providing email, content, etc in google. And you have Bezos who supplies your online request and media. And Elon who supplies a car service (that he can shut down), space, and neural laces. Microsoft who provide the world's operating systems, family planning and viruses. Etc.
zo1 6y ago
> "Removing the information from YouTube isn't removing the information from the internet." What gets "flagged" or "removed" from Youtube, mostly also gets the same treatment at Facebook, Twitter, etc. Some extreme examples have seen people be deplatformed from a wide range of "internet" platforms, including their hosting. It's a sad road to go down, and each time we concede things such as removing content from Youtube because of "user safety" and "experience", we add legitimacy for the deplatforming, cancelling and exclusion of individuals with different or controversial opinions.
- feralimal 6y ago
  Yes - corporates, media, education AND government form the governance system we have.

by dewey 6y ago

feralimal 6y ago

But it does. Its public knowledge that google was partially funded by inqtel. The government subsidises corporations. I think you and I must have different ideas on what governance is. You probably think education, corporations, government and media are separate. I don't. I think they are part of the same governance apparatus. Hence you have a search company providing email, content, etc in google. And you have Bezos who supplies your online request and media. And Elon who supplies a car service (that he can shut down), space, and neural laces. Microsoft who provide the world's operating systems, family planning and viruses. Etc.

zo1 6y ago

> "Removing the information from YouTube isn't removing the information from the internet." What gets "flagged" or "removed" from Youtube, mostly also gets the same treatment at Facebook, Twitter, etc. Some extreme examples have seen people be deplatformed from a wide range of "internet" platforms, including their hosting. It's a sad road to go down, and each time we concede things such as removing content from Youtube because of "user safety" and "experience", we add legitimacy for the deplatforming, cancelling and exclusion of individuals with different or controversial opinions.

feralimal 6y ago
Yes - corporates, media, education AND government form the governance system we have.