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Failing that, maybe change some laws and regulations.

malikNF 6y ago
>>change some laws and regulations. but then we are in another loop where people who don't understand technology will bring in laws that both fix an issue but creates a whole set of new issues, that might even hinder progress. So I am not a fan of politicians getting involved with things they don't have a good idea about. Personally I choose to believe in the whole decentralized internet idea that's starting to taking off. 10 years ago bitcoin, smart contracts, decentralized payment systems, decentralized video platforms etc were not that popular or didn't exist and now there's so much progress made in that direction. So I believe there's some good that will come out of the blockchain space. Problem is, only time will tell ha.
- darepublic 6y ago
  Yeah the internet being so predominantly web pages with html on them that you have little power to customize ad a user may seem antiquated one day. The internet should simply beam you data on demand, and you can visualize it any way you like client side
  - ByteJockey 6y ago
    So, apis with multiple non-browser native clients? Basically the current app model, but decoupling the owners of the client ant the api? I think it could work, but you'd probably have to mix ads directly into the return values for it to be at all profitable. Then again, if clients are one time download, and the owner of the api doesn't have to deliver 5-10 meg of JS every single time, you might be able to get away with less ads.
    - darepublic 6y ago
      currently the web doesn't let you mix data from sites very easily. Like maybe I want to cross reference my google calendar with my bank spendings on a particular day or something. We also get stuck with crappy UIs all the time (often from banks in particular). Dunno about how ads would work if sites just provided data, but I can imagine an intermediate step where we have a tool that can real time scrape a site for only what we are interested in and discard the rest. Then present it to the user using custom real time presentation
      - brokenmachine 6y ago
        I'd be happy with just no autoplaying videos and no messing with my scrollbars. Oh, and no popups or popunders.
syshum 6y ago
Laws and Regulations are themselves a Walled Garden with all the same problems with the added problem of a monopoly on the initiation of violence to enforce the rules

>>change some laws and regulations. but then we are in another loop where people who don't understand technology will bring in laws that both fix an issue but creates a whole set of new issues, that might even hinder progress. So I am not a fan of politicians getting involved with things they don't have a good idea about. Personally I choose to believe in the whole decentralized internet idea that's starting to taking off. 10 years ago bitcoin, smart contracts, decentralized payment systems, decentralized video platforms etc were not that popular or didn't exist and now there's so much progress made in that direction. So I believe there's some good that will come out of the blockchain space. Problem is, only time will tell ha.

darepublic 6y ago
Yeah the internet being so predominantly web pages with html on them that you have little power to customize ad a user may seem antiquated one day. The internet should simply beam you data on demand, and you can visualize it any way you like client side
- ByteJockey 6y ago
  So, apis with multiple non-browser native clients? Basically the current app model, but decoupling the owners of the client ant the api? I think it could work, but you'd probably have to mix ads directly into the return values for it to be at all profitable. Then again, if clients are one time download, and the owner of the api doesn't have to deliver 5-10 meg of JS every single time, you might be able to get away with less ads.
  - darepublic 6y ago
    currently the web doesn't let you mix data from sites very easily. Like maybe I want to cross reference my google calendar with my bank spendings on a particular day or something. We also get stuck with crappy UIs all the time (often from banks in particular). Dunno about how ads would work if sites just provided data, but I can imagine an intermediate step where we have a tool that can real time scrape a site for only what we are interested in and discard the rest. Then present it to the user using custom real time presentation
    - brokenmachine 6y ago
      I'd be happy with just no autoplaying videos and no messing with my scrollbars. Oh, and no popups or popunders.

syshum 6y ago

Laws and Regulations are themselves a Walled Garden with all the same problems with the added problem of a monopoly on the initiation of violence to enforce the rules