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Why aren't they the same piece of info? Scores just reflect popularity, not expert analysis. I find scoring systems like at reddit or slashdot just promote, usu

Why aren't they the same piece of info? Scores just reflect popularity, not expert analysis. I find scoring systems like at reddit or slashdot just promote, usually wrong, group think (ZOMG OBAMA IS A COMMIE KENYAN!!) or whatever group values the majority accepts (GAYS SHOULDNT GET MARRIED!!). There's a lot of faith in the wisdom of crowds with these systems and that's not a faith I find particularly convincing. The lowest common denominator shouldn't be encouraged. These systems are good for getting rid of trolls and other cruft, but not magical quality or truth machines.

newmediaclay 16y ago
I don't think you've been a member of the community long enough, then. On YC, I certainly find a correlation between the points for a certain comment and the thoughtfulness put into that comment. This isn't true on other systems (reddit, etc) where clever noise is preferred to depth, but I generally find the most helpful comments getting voted up here.
edw 16y ago
I agree. I've almost forgotten how disappointed I am that sites like HN, Reddit, and so forth don't use my up votes as signals for a collaborative filter and suggest which comments and stories I might find interesting. (And by "interesting," I mean interesting, not something I agree with, a distinction too many people on HN don't seem to understand.)
- drzaiusapelord 16y ago
  That's a great idea. I could see a simple implementation that'll could work out. If I like comment 4954 and you like comment 4954 and later I like comment 5004 then it should recommend it to you.
estel 16y ago
Surely that's no different to what we have now: the most "popular" comments / submissions are, with the application of some secret sauce, the most visible and promoted to the top of the thread. The fact that we can't see the underlying numbers makes no difference.

newmediaclay 16y ago

I don't think you've been a member of the community long enough, then. On YC, I certainly find a correlation between the points for a certain comment and the thoughtfulness put into that comment. This isn't true on other systems (reddit, etc) where clever noise is preferred to depth, but I generally find the most helpful comments getting voted up here.

edw 16y ago

I agree. I've almost forgotten how disappointed I am that sites like HN, Reddit, and so forth don't use my up votes as signals for a collaborative filter and suggest which comments and stories I might find interesting. (And by "interesting," I mean interesting, not something I agree with, a distinction too many people on HN don't seem to understand.)

drzaiusapelord 16y ago
That's a great idea. I could see a simple implementation that'll could work out. If I like comment 4954 and you like comment 4954 and later I like comment 5004 then it should recommend it to you.

estel 16y ago

Surely that's no different to what we have now: the most "popular" comments / submissions are, with the application of some secret sauce, the most visible and promoted to the top of the thread. The fact that we can't see the underlying numbers makes no difference.