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As a matter of fact, Nature does have logic. It’s motion is principally geometrical and affords us the ability to recursively structure electrical signals harmo

As a matter of fact, Nature does have logic. It’s motion is principally geometrical and affords us the ability to recursively structure electrical signals harmonically, eg feedback amplification. Feedback circuits are vital to biological systems and prove my point.

grishka 6y ago
> Feedback circuits are vital to biological systems and prove my point. Yes they are. Consciousness is a result of an electric feedback loop, and aging is apparently a result of a chemical feedback loop but that wasn't proven completely yet (that's the feedback loop I'd very much like disrupted). But again, that's not what I'm talking about. You're missing my point entirely. I'm talking about connections that aren't obvious so no one looks for them in the first place and performs no experiments to reveal them. Example: sleep-deprived fruit flies accumulate active oxygen in their gut[1] and eventually die because of it. Is this an obvious connection to look for? Hell no. And there are many more examples of such unexpected and perplexing connections in the inner workings of living things. Nature doesn't always choose the most optimal implementations either. Life is a fascinatingly complex Rube Goldberg machine. 1 https://hms.harvard.edu/news/sleep-death-gut https://hms.harvard.edu/news/sleep-death-gut
- achillesheels 6y ago
  I see what you are saying. Sorry for missing the point. Of course I have to agree that what you describe is the enterprise of scientific discovery altogether! My point on that end is all these “mysteries” in the biological domain are easier to spot with the proper framework. Right now the biological sciences do not emphasize any mathematically rigorous understanding of electricity which is keeping their blinders on. It is intuitive to understand the oxidation reactions, per your example, dielectrically, but the researchers certainly lack the cohesive understanding.

grishka 6y ago

> Feedback circuits are vital to biological systems and prove my point. Yes they are. Consciousness is a result of an electric feedback loop, and aging is apparently a result of a chemical feedback loop but that wasn't proven completely yet (that's the feedback loop I'd very much like disrupted). But again, that's not what I'm talking about. You're missing my point entirely. I'm talking about connections that aren't obvious so no one looks for them in the first place and performs no experiments to reveal them. Example: sleep-deprived fruit flies accumulate active oxygen in their gut[1] and eventually die because of it. Is this an obvious connection to look for? Hell no. And there are many more examples of such unexpected and perplexing connections in the inner workings of living things. Nature doesn't always choose the most optimal implementations either. Life is a fascinatingly complex Rube Goldberg machine. 1 https://hms.harvard.edu/news/sleep-death-gut https://hms.harvard.edu/news/sleep-death-gut

achillesheels 6y ago
I see what you are saying. Sorry for missing the point. Of course I have to agree that what you describe is the enterprise of scientific discovery altogether! My point on that end is all these “mysteries” in the biological domain are easier to spot with the proper framework. Right now the biological sciences do not emphasize any mathematically rigorous understanding of electricity which is keeping their blinders on. It is intuitive to understand the oxidation reactions, per your example, dielectrically, but the researchers certainly lack the cohesive understanding.