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Don't see why this is any better than the existing solutions...

chrismeller 6y ago
Well if you read the article you would know. It’s because NYC has infamously never had anything like this. Technical reasons, logistical reasons, integration (it’s actually like 4 systems combined) reasons... It’s not revolutionary in and of itself, just that New York now has one.
- interestica 6y ago
  Don't forget copyright reasons https://nypost.com/2020/01/09/mta-goes-after-amateur-mapmaker-for-copyright-infringement/ https://nypost.com/2020/01/09/mta-goes-after-amateur-mapmake...
- jcranmer 6y ago
  It's three systems but more like two. The IRT and the BMT were the original systems and operated on different loading gauges. The city then built the IND system before acquiring the IRT and BMT and consolidating them into one system. The IND system itself is built to the same loading gauge as the BMT, so that the BMT and IND are interchangeable for operational purposes, but the IRT is not interchangeable. The remnants of this is seen in the line names: the numbers are the IRT lines, and the letters are BMT or IND lines. Note that while the loading gauges are different, other operational aspects (such as signalling and traction power) are the same. So the delay in getting this information up is less a factor of "there's multiple systems" and more "the MTA can't/won't modernize its systems to get this information."
- CryptoBanker 6y ago
  I live in NYC...you can see the exact same info on both the MyMTA app as well as in the Subway Time app. This is nothing new...
  - fennecfoxen 6y ago
    The new thing is that when the F is running down Broadway instead of 6th Ave, it shows an orange line down Broadway instead of down 6th Ave. This is good for some of the extreme service change weekends, the kind where they move the F to the Q and then turn it into a D in Brooklyn so they can run the D on the F in Brooklyn and the A in Manhattan so nobody's running anything at all on Sixth Avenue and they can do all the work they need there. Or when the southbound 5 turns around at Bowling Green and runs northbound on the 1 and 2 so that they can work on a specific switch in the old South Ferry Loop. But even when it shows this to be the case, it does a very poor job of exposing the specific form of the deviance from normal.
    - bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
      That's actually a really bad change. Color indicates the stops a train will be making. If a train will be going down Broadway then it should be colored the Broadway line color. No one actually cares about the label of a given train; what matters is which stops it will be making, which is dictated by which track it's traveling on.
      - fennecfoxen 6y ago
        That's a bit tricky too; the color will no longer match what you see on the train itself; nor will it be reflected at the stations outside of Lower Manhattan where you might catch that train.
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Well if you read the article you would know. It’s because NYC has infamously never had anything like this. Technical reasons, logistical reasons, integration (it’s actually like 4 systems combined) reasons... It’s not revolutionary in and of itself, just that New York now has one.

interestica 6y ago
Don't forget copyright reasons https://nypost.com/2020/01/09/mta-goes-after-amateur-mapmaker-for-copyright-infringement/ https://nypost.com/2020/01/09/mta-goes-after-amateur-mapmake...
jcranmer 6y ago
It's three systems but more like two. The IRT and the BMT were the original systems and operated on different loading gauges. The city then built the IND system before acquiring the IRT and BMT and consolidating them into one system. The IND system itself is built to the same loading gauge as the BMT, so that the BMT and IND are interchangeable for operational purposes, but the IRT is not interchangeable. The remnants of this is seen in the line names: the numbers are the IRT lines, and the letters are BMT or IND lines. Note that while the loading gauges are different, other operational aspects (such as signalling and traction power) are the same. So the delay in getting this information up is less a factor of "there's multiple systems" and more "the MTA can't/won't modernize its systems to get this information."
CryptoBanker 6y ago
I live in NYC...you can see the exact same info on both the MyMTA app as well as in the Subway Time app. This is nothing new...
- fennecfoxen 6y ago
  The new thing is that when the F is running down Broadway instead of 6th Ave, it shows an orange line down Broadway instead of down 6th Ave. This is good for some of the extreme service change weekends, the kind where they move the F to the Q and then turn it into a D in Brooklyn so they can run the D on the F in Brooklyn and the A in Manhattan so nobody's running anything at all on Sixth Avenue and they can do all the work they need there. Or when the southbound 5 turns around at Bowling Green and runs northbound on the 1 and 2 so that they can work on a specific switch in the old South Ferry Loop. But even when it shows this to be the case, it does a very poor job of exposing the specific form of the deviance from normal.
  - bobbylarrybobby 6y ago
    That's actually a really bad change. Color indicates the stops a train will be making. If a train will be going down Broadway then it should be colored the Broadway line color. No one actually cares about the label of a given train; what matters is which stops it will be making, which is dictated by which track it's traveling on.
    - fennecfoxen 6y ago
      That's a bit tricky too; the color will no longer match what you see on the train itself; nor will it be reflected at the stations outside of Lower Manhattan where you might catch that train.

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