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By the way, even though it is not yet turned on by default, http3 support is present in Firefox and can be activated by toggling 'network.http.http3.enabled' in

By the way, even though it is not yet turned on by default, http3 support is present in Firefox and can be activated by toggling 'network.http.http3.enabled' in about:config to true. I have had it enabled for a few weeks and everything seems okay except that rarely I've noticed a few sites not loading the first time I visit them but needing a 'refresh', but I'm not sure if this is because of the new QUIC code or just another connection glitch.

the-dude 6y ago
Where can I put my money on cache coherency?
- codetrotter 6y ago
  I’ll take that bet and I will give you a generous 1:10 bet odds ratio. So, if you give me $1000 dollars as your stake then: - If you are wrong I get to keep the whole $1000 - If you are correct then I will give you $100 of your money back. (Leaving me with $900 of your money still hehe). In other words what I am saying is, I think you are correct in what you said ;)
  - jedberg 6y ago
    FYI, what you wanted to say was 1 for 10, not 1 to 10. Like craps odds when betting on the don't side, where you win less than what you bet. But it's important to point out that even with 1 for 10 odds, you still get your original stake back plus the extra 1.
    - codetrotter 6y ago
      Thanks for clarifying. Guess it's a good thing I never tried to enter the betting industry haha
      - kortilla 6y ago
        Yeah, nobody would ever place a bet if the best payout was less than what you put in...
        jsjohnst 6y ago
        I know you were just making a point, but I want to point out that the “nobody” part is certainly not true, as sad as that is. Generally something like that is considered fraud/deception, but it does happen.
Matthias247 6y ago
It likely is. I played around with the implementation earlier on (it's now > 6 weeks back), and it still had some issues. E.g. the quic connection would time out at the server without the browser knowing about it. And all follow-up requests silently failed. A page refresh helped that. Another thing where a full page refresh helps is towards getting consistency on whether HTTP/3 is available or not, because the client might make another HTTP/2 request instead and refresh the Alt-Svc information.
deskamess 6y ago
Had constant problems loading Youtube. Finally someone on r/Firefox helped me solve it by seeing what in my config was different from default. This value was it and everything worked well after the setting was reverted and restarting.
- megous 6y ago
  Thanks, this helped. :) I had it enabled too.
cpeterso 6y ago
Beware that there have been some issues with Google sites not loading or being very slow with Firefox's HTTP/3 implementation. Some of these were Firefox bugs and some were Google server bugs. But I use HTTP/3 in Firefox Nightly and use Gmail and Google Docs all day long without major breakage these days.
- ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
  I would avoid enabling QUIC manually anywhere anyway for now, Google controls both endpoints and the RFC so it clearly has an advantage there.
tamrix 6y ago
Ah, the race to the bottom has begun with http too. Can't wait for http 4, 5 & 6 to be released next year so that a few companies can fight to steer the direction of the Web.
wilx 6y ago
I see stalls too. I just turned it off and everything seems to work better now.

the-dude 6y ago

Where can I put my money on cache coherency?

codetrotter 6y ago
I’ll take that bet and I will give you a generous 1:10 bet odds ratio. So, if you give me $1000 dollars as your stake then: - If you are wrong I get to keep the whole $1000 - If you are correct then I will give you $100 of your money back. (Leaving me with $900 of your money still hehe). In other words what I am saying is, I think you are correct in what you said ;)
- jedberg 6y ago
  FYI, what you wanted to say was 1 for 10, not 1 to 10. Like craps odds when betting on the don't side, where you win less than what you bet. But it's important to point out that even with 1 for 10 odds, you still get your original stake back plus the extra 1.
  - codetrotter 6y ago
    Thanks for clarifying. Guess it's a good thing I never tried to enter the betting industry haha
    - kortilla 6y ago
      Yeah, nobody would ever place a bet if the best payout was less than what you put in...
      - jsjohnst 6y ago
        I know you were just making a point, but I want to point out that the “nobody” part is certainly not true, as sad as that is. Generally something like that is considered fraud/deception, but it does happen.

Matthias247 6y ago

It likely is. I played around with the implementation earlier on (it's now > 6 weeks back), and it still had some issues. E.g. the quic connection would time out at the server without the browser knowing about it. And all follow-up requests silently failed. A page refresh helped that. Another thing where a full page refresh helps is towards getting consistency on whether HTTP/3 is available or not, because the client might make another HTTP/2 request instead and refresh the Alt-Svc information.

deskamess 6y ago

Had constant problems loading Youtube. Finally someone on r/Firefox helped me solve it by seeing what in my config was different from default. This value was it and everything worked well after the setting was reverted and restarting.

megous 6y ago
Thanks, this helped. :) I had it enabled too.

cpeterso 6y ago

Beware that there have been some issues with Google sites not loading or being very slow with Firefox's HTTP/3 implementation. Some of these were Firefox bugs and some were Google server bugs. But I use HTTP/3 in Firefox Nightly and use Gmail and Google Docs all day long without major breakage these days.

ccktlmazeltov 6y ago
I would avoid enabling QUIC manually anywhere anyway for now, Google controls both endpoints and the RFC so it clearly has an advantage there.

tamrix 6y ago

Ah, the race to the bottom has begun with http too. Can't wait for http 4, 5 & 6 to be released next year so that a few companies can fight to steer the direction of the Web.

wilx 6y ago

I see stalls too. I just turned it off and everything seems to work better now.