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I'm loving Firefox Containers for various use cases, but is running Google/Facebook in them worth the extra hassle if you use uBO/Privacy Badger? It blocks all

I'm loving Firefox Containers for various use cases, but is running Google/Facebook in them worth the extra hassle if you use uBO/Privacy Badger? It blocks all that stuff anyway.

ProAm 6y ago
uBO barely works on facebook these days. Try and use the element picker.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  What do you mean? I just visited a site and uBO blocked FB fine.
  - satyanash 6y ago
    As in, it doesn't block most stuff automatically. You need to pick them using the element picker manually. And even that doesn't stick all the time.
    - StavrosK 6y ago
      Are you talking about stuff on the Facebook website? I'm talking about blocking Facebook tracking on other sites.
      - ProAm 6y ago
        I was talking about on the facebook website.
    - fwn 6y ago
      I think that one of you is talking about network filters and the other is talking about cosmetic filters. Cosmetic filters are a bit hard right now, due to Facebooks effort to obscure them. Network filters are as easy and as reliable as ever though.
- jahlove 6y ago
  Remove the Stories and "Video chat" widgets that take up so much of the top of the page: www.facebook.com##div[aria-label="Stories"] www.facebook.com##div[data-pagelet="Stories"] www.facebook.com##div[data-pagelet="VideoChatHomeUnit"]
- timbit42 6y ago
  Have you looked at FBPurity?
TheCapn 6y ago
I was pretty "meh" on containers until I put in a bit of effort to set them up. Flagging certain domains to always open in a specific tab category took a bit to work through on the common sites I visit, but now that its all set up I think its great.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Is it better than uBO? If so, how?
  - chmod775 6y ago
    You can use both. They each solve a set of problems that only overlap partially.
gruez 6y ago
You might be able to escape facebook using ublock, but you're going to have trouble escaping google. It's everywhere: youtube embeds, google cdn (for scripts/fonts), google maps embeds/autocomplete, recaptcha.
- iamdamian 6y ago
  Do these embeds matter if you block 3rd party cookies and don't click on the embedded content?
  - cmeacham98 6y ago
    The embed should still get access to its first party cookies, so yes.
lights0123 6y ago
They're worth it for me just so I don't have to use the Google account switcher.
floatingatoll 6y ago
uBO/PB make you much easier to fingerprint uniquely due to not loading advertising content on all web requests, which could be considered harmful in a scenario where you don't want to be tracked. Facebook Containers extension offers the same fingerprint as "doesn't have a Facebook account and uses a browser that blocks tracking by default" outside of the container, which is far less unique these days than it used to be. Note that this doesn't diminish the effectiveness of uBO/PB at blocking requests — but I think most of their users don't realize how much easier it is to identify who uBO/PB users are, relative to the rest of the world on less obvious setups.
- asdff 6y ago
  maybe someone needs to make a spoofer extention of a factory fresh laptop

I'm loving Firefox Containers for various use cases, but is running Google/Facebook in them worth the extra hassle if you use uBO/Privacy Badger? It blocks all that stuff anyway.

ProAm 6y ago

uBO barely works on facebook these days. Try and use the element picker.

StavrosK 6y ago
What do you mean? I just visited a site and uBO blocked FB fine.
- satyanash 6y ago
  As in, it doesn't block most stuff automatically. You need to pick them using the element picker manually. And even that doesn't stick all the time.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    Are you talking about stuff on the Facebook website? I'm talking about blocking Facebook tracking on other sites.
    - ProAm 6y ago
      I was talking about on the facebook website.
  - fwn 6y ago
    I think that one of you is talking about network filters and the other is talking about cosmetic filters. Cosmetic filters are a bit hard right now, due to Facebooks effort to obscure them. Network filters are as easy and as reliable as ever though.
jahlove 6y ago
Remove the Stories and "Video chat" widgets that take up so much of the top of the page: www.facebook.com##div[aria-label="Stories"] www.facebook.com##div[data-pagelet="Stories"] www.facebook.com##div[data-pagelet="VideoChatHomeUnit"]
timbit42 6y ago
Have you looked at FBPurity?

TheCapn 6y ago

I was pretty "meh" on containers until I put in a bit of effort to set them up. Flagging certain domains to always open in a specific tab category took a bit to work through on the common sites I visit, but now that its all set up I think its great.

StavrosK 6y ago
Is it better than uBO? If so, how?
- chmod775 6y ago
  You can use both. They each solve a set of problems that only overlap partially.

gruez 6y ago

You might be able to escape facebook using ublock, but you're going to have trouble escaping google. It's everywhere: youtube embeds, google cdn (for scripts/fonts), google maps embeds/autocomplete, recaptcha.

iamdamian 6y ago
Do these embeds matter if you block 3rd party cookies and don't click on the embedded content?
- cmeacham98 6y ago
  The embed should still get access to its first party cookies, so yes.

lights0123 6y ago

They're worth it for me just so I don't have to use the Google account switcher.

floatingatoll 6y ago

uBO/PB make you much easier to fingerprint uniquely due to not loading advertising content on all web requests, which could be considered harmful in a scenario where you don't want to be tracked. Facebook Containers extension offers the same fingerprint as "doesn't have a Facebook account and uses a browser that blocks tracking by default" outside of the container, which is far less unique these days than it used to be. Note that this doesn't diminish the effectiveness of uBO/PB at blocking requests — but I think most of their users don't realize how much easier it is to identify who uBO/PB users are, relative to the rest of the world on less obvious setups.

asdff 6y ago
maybe someone needs to make a spoofer extention of a factory fresh laptop