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I collided into a similar shortcoming with search. I wound up creating an ElasticSearch instance, which has so far worked great, but was an incredible hassle co

I collided into a similar shortcoming with search. I wound up creating an ElasticSearch instance, which has so far worked great, but was an incredible hassle compared to a traditional CMS+frontend like WordPress. Were I to require comments, I would probably pursue a similar solution — a minimal cloud server with a bare bones comments API. Is this not the obvious solution? But as a newbie to JAMstack, I was definitely stunned to learn that headless CMS providers like Contentful and Sanity do not appear to provide services like this. (please correct me if I'm wrong)

agustif 6y ago
In your case and for search, you could either have gone the propietary route with algolia.io, (awesome DX, might get hefty bill if you grow a lot). Or, you can go elastic, which I've heard is somewhat a bit hardware-hungry mostly to fitting everything into ram?? (gross over simplification on my part) Also you can use elastic cloud or any other cloud providers branded elastic service. I also just remembered of MeiliSearch, project found on GitHub built with Rust. https://github.com/meilisearch/MeiliSearch https://github.com/meilisearch/MeiliSearch
- Eric_WVGG 6y ago
  You are correct, Elastic is a RAM beast. Fortunately the data I had was in the low hundreds of documents. Can't recall why I passed on Meili Algolia… the other thing about JAMstack is, it's a bit tiresome how so many JAMstack solutions are paid services. I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a buck — I am too, after all — but the level of community, support, and rate of improvement just doesn't keep up with a really good open source project. Try to get help with a Wordpress issue vs Contentful. Also their pricing seems to think that customers are either free-tier devs or enterprises who can afford hundreds or thousands of dollars a month for their services. Most of the people I deal with look at a $25/mo Squarespace package as reasonable and they're not wrong. I won't consider JAMstack "of age" until we have an open source headless CMS on par with Contentful or Sanity.
  - agustif 6y ago
    Hey thanks for your answer, yes I also do feel that way about the paid-ness of JAMstack and related tools, but oh well we live on a capitalist society afterall, and for every venture backed project there's an indie one! I can personally recommend PrimeCMS, it was my introduction to open source and what make me discover also AccountsJS (Which I contribute to) and graphql-modules and all the awesome @theguild graphql tools, which are actually open source. How I see it, is nice to be able to use those free tiers to develop MVP's and have a clear plan of moving out of those once the bill gets too expensive... That's the game for me at least... just today a retool open source alternative was in the homepage, so there's room for everyone here I think! What JAMStack means, is more layers of abstraction, but an easiness of getting started too, you can get it as simple or complex as you want anyway...

agustif 6y ago

In your case and for search, you could either have gone the propietary route with algolia.io, (awesome DX, might get hefty bill if you grow a lot). Or, you can go elastic, which I've heard is somewhat a bit hardware-hungry mostly to fitting everything into ram?? (gross over simplification on my part) Also you can use elastic cloud or any other cloud providers branded elastic service. I also just remembered of MeiliSearch, project found on GitHub built with Rust. https://github.com/meilisearch/MeiliSearch https://github.com/meilisearch/MeiliSearch

Eric_WVGG 6y ago
You are correct, Elastic is a RAM beast. Fortunately the data I had was in the low hundreds of documents. Can't recall why I passed on Meili Algolia… the other thing about JAMstack is, it's a bit tiresome how so many JAMstack solutions are paid services. I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a buck — I am too, after all — but the level of community, support, and rate of improvement just doesn't keep up with a really good open source project. Try to get help with a Wordpress issue vs Contentful. Also their pricing seems to think that customers are either free-tier devs or enterprises who can afford hundreds or thousands of dollars a month for their services. Most of the people I deal with look at a $25/mo Squarespace package as reasonable and they're not wrong. I won't consider JAMstack "of age" until we have an open source headless CMS on par with Contentful or Sanity.
- agustif 6y ago
  Hey thanks for your answer, yes I also do feel that way about the paid-ness of JAMstack and related tools, but oh well we live on a capitalist society afterall, and for every venture backed project there's an indie one! I can personally recommend PrimeCMS, it was my introduction to open source and what make me discover also AccountsJS (Which I contribute to) and graphql-modules and all the awesome @theguild graphql tools, which are actually open source. How I see it, is nice to be able to use those free tiers to develop MVP's and have a clear plan of moving out of those once the bill gets too expensive... That's the game for me at least... just today a retool open source alternative was in the homepage, so there's room for everyone here I think! What JAMStack means, is more layers of abstraction, but an easiness of getting started too, you can get it as simple or complex as you want anyway...