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Native, here; drained of progressive values after witnessing and living reality. Thefts got waay worst after lost of security then Covid lockdown. They had a se

Native, here; drained of progressive values after witnessing and living reality. Thefts got waay worst after lost of security then Covid lockdown. They had a security guard on a some sort of tricycle Segway before. Felt safer, seniors shopping no problem. Then security left and things worst. I remember the complaints from the long time long haired POC clerk BUT shelves were full. Then Covid. The last time I was there, I was shocked at the empty barren shelves. Franklin store also hit hard. And the poor clerk this time new face, probably temp, had the same sad, what can we do? Absolute impunity. Seniors and poor shoppers suffer; people discarded because they don't make the headlines. People who run the show or like to talk or shout BS, don't even visit the Tenderloin except probably for a PR shoot. As for the addicted, mentally ill and homeless, we see them suffer too, everyday. Well at least they can ride MUNI for free. Suffering all around, unless you're in a gated community or outer districts. Money won't solve the problem. Back in the day, we had 5150 at least. Can you imagine running a business now in this environment? Raising children? So much for the "radical change to how we envision justice" Gee I wonder why businesses board their shops with all this overflowing peace, love and compassion in the city? Well, at least not the tall multi million luxury condo skyscraper where the former Goodwill stood.

foxes 6y ago
Im sick of this dogwhistling on Hackernews. Every comment that starts with "Im / used to be progressive but" is always the same. Decades of neoliberal/republican/right wing interference,corruption and greed has destroyed your society not "progressive values" (which in other countries without Murdoch et al interference things are far better). They have dug a hole, whilst enriching themselves and their fellow cronies, and then tricked others to jump in. You have been made to think its somehow the progressive lefts fault. You have been made to think its the people who have been the most exploited fault (other countries, poor people, disadvantaged etc). You deserve what is probably coming.
- atomi 6y ago
  To add, it was Republicans under Reagan who shut down the mental health facilities.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  You're completely right. People are complaining about the side effects of capitalism and then blaming progressives.
  - cluntistry 6y ago
    How does me buying something volunarily from someone who produced it voluntarily force another scumbag to steal? Please attempt to phrase your answer in a way that hides the fact that you're a scumbag who just likes stealing.
  - excalifornian 6y ago
    For what it’s worth, petty crime in Cali got much worse after Prop 47 passed in 2014. That wasn’t capitalism at work, it was “progressive” thinking that overcrowded prisons could become less crowded by decriminalizing various crimes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_...
- cluntistry 6y ago
  Can't blame Democrats for Democrat cities being shit pits in the Communist Republic of California, lmao The absolute zero-watt thinking on the left in 2020
- nicbou 6y ago
  Is this really dog whistling? There is no coded language in the parent comment, as far as I can tell. The way I read it, this person is tired of pretending there is no problem, that love, acceptance and a new app will fix it.
- rasengan0 6y ago
  Absolute naviete. In the USA, we have different levels of government: Federal, State and Local to be simplistic. Each are empowered by elected representation but not all necessarily working in concert. Voting only goes so far. Stop the labels and maybe some awareness can seep in. Sadly, many are still delusional and refuse to see reality, continuing to rationalize this behavior with abstract theories of nonsense: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-steals-from-sf-walgreens-during-tv-report-on-shoplifting/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-steals-from-sf-walgr...
nicbou 6y ago
I've been in really poor places all over the world, all alone and on my own. None scared me like that one street in SF, the tech capital of the world. I genuinely felt like I was about to get hurt, right here in plain daylight, just walking through. There was unimaginable misery wherever I laid my eyes, for what seemed like a kilometre long stretch of road. I didn't expect the source of so much wealth to be this bad.
- rogerkirkness 6y ago
  Agreed, I felt safer in Acapulco.
cluntistry 6y ago
Don't kid yourself, chum You're still full of "progressive values"

foxes 6y ago

Im sick of this dogwhistling on Hackernews. Every comment that starts with "Im / used to be progressive but" is always the same. Decades of neoliberal/republican/right wing interference,corruption and greed has destroyed your society not "progressive values" (which in other countries without Murdoch et al interference things are far better). They have dug a hole, whilst enriching themselves and their fellow cronies, and then tricked others to jump in. You have been made to think its somehow the progressive lefts fault. You have been made to think its the people who have been the most exploited fault (other countries, poor people, disadvantaged etc). You deserve what is probably coming.

atomi 6y ago
To add, it was Republicans under Reagan who shut down the mental health facilities.
aaomidi 6y ago
You're completely right. People are complaining about the side effects of capitalism and then blaming progressives.
- cluntistry 6y ago
  How does me buying something volunarily from someone who produced it voluntarily force another scumbag to steal? Please attempt to phrase your answer in a way that hides the fact that you're a scumbag who just likes stealing.
- excalifornian 6y ago
  For what it’s worth, petty crime in Cali got much worse after Prop 47 passed in 2014. That wasn’t capitalism at work, it was “progressive” thinking that overcrowded prisons could become less crowded by decriminalizing various crimes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_...
cluntistry 6y ago
Can't blame Democrats for Democrat cities being shit pits in the Communist Republic of California, lmao The absolute zero-watt thinking on the left in 2020
nicbou 6y ago
Is this really dog whistling? There is no coded language in the parent comment, as far as I can tell. The way I read it, this person is tired of pretending there is no problem, that love, acceptance and a new app will fix it.
rasengan0 6y ago
Absolute naviete. In the USA, we have different levels of government: Federal, State and Local to be simplistic. Each are empowered by elected representation but not all necessarily working in concert. Voting only goes so far. Stop the labels and maybe some awareness can seep in. Sadly, many are still delusional and refuse to see reality, continuing to rationalize this behavior with abstract theories of nonsense: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-steals-from-sf-walgreens-during-tv-report-on-shoplifting/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/man-steals-from-sf-walgr...

nicbou 6y ago

I've been in really poor places all over the world, all alone and on my own. None scared me like that one street in SF, the tech capital of the world. I genuinely felt like I was about to get hurt, right here in plain daylight, just walking through. There was unimaginable misery wherever I laid my eyes, for what seemed like a kilometre long stretch of road. I didn't expect the source of so much wealth to be this bad.

rogerkirkness 6y ago
Agreed, I felt safer in Acapulco.

cluntistry 6y ago

Don't kid yourself, chum You're still full of "progressive values"