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Microsoft makes a pretty good amount of money on Windows licensing, and a whole lot of places run Windows because 1) AD is pretty great, and 2) A lot of softwar

Microsoft makes a pretty good amount of money on Windows licensing, and a whole lot of places run Windows because 1) AD is pretty great, and 2) A lot of software businesses rely on is Windows only. I do not see this changing in the near future. I can't see a strong incentive for companies to switch to Linux even if MS brings AD, GPOs, Office, and its own MS-supported WINE.

GekkePrutser 6y ago
AD is not great. It depends on a legacy model with trusted company networks that was out even before COVID and all the home working hammered the last nail into its coffin. Setting up new systems with it remotely is a real pain, something the EMM model fixes completely.
- hackerfromthefu 6y ago
  Interested in more detail on this?
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    In which way? I work in EMM (though not Windows) and we are rapidly moving to Intune/Azure AD now because of this change. Onboarding new machines has become a nightmare when people can't go to the office. The problem is a catch-22.. We require a 'trusted' machine to connect to the VPN. Yet the VPN is required to connect to AD and bind it, which is the de-facto way it becomes trusted. Before someone in the office would do this but in many cases this hasn't been possible since COVID so it's exposed the issues with this approach. But even before that, working from home has been causing a lot of friction. Everyone is moving to EMM models now, like Google Beyondcorp. MS is pushing Intune now as main management, with 'comanagement' with AD for the time being because it doesn't have the same scope of functionality yet. But it's clear that their long-term plan is to abandon it.
    - hackerfromthefu 6y ago
      Thank you now it makes sense to me.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
  Pretty much all the remote work I'm aware of in my area is done using RDP, so AD is still relevant. I think your opinion may be biased towards smaller and younger companies.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

AD is not great. It depends on a legacy model with trusted company networks that was out even before COVID and all the home working hammered the last nail into its coffin. Setting up new systems with it remotely is a real pain, something the EMM model fixes completely.

hackerfromthefu 6y ago
Interested in more detail on this?
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  In which way? I work in EMM (though not Windows) and we are rapidly moving to Intune/Azure AD now because of this change. Onboarding new machines has become a nightmare when people can't go to the office. The problem is a catch-22.. We require a 'trusted' machine to connect to the VPN. Yet the VPN is required to connect to AD and bind it, which is the de-facto way it becomes trusted. Before someone in the office would do this but in many cases this hasn't been possible since COVID so it's exposed the issues with this approach. But even before that, working from home has been causing a lot of friction. Everyone is moving to EMM models now, like Google Beyondcorp. MS is pushing Intune now as main management, with 'comanagement' with AD for the time being because it doesn't have the same scope of functionality yet. But it's clear that their long-term plan is to abandon it.
  - hackerfromthefu 6y ago
    Thank you now it makes sense to me.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Pretty much all the remote work I'm aware of in my area is done using RDP, so AD is still relevant. I think your opinion may be biased towards smaller and younger companies.